Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

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Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by Hastur » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:05 am

There is something fishy going on in Russia.

Why is radiation spiking after a jet engine exploded on a test site?
Why do they need to shut down shipping in the white sea for a month?
Why are Russians in the area stockpiling Iodine?

Radiation 'spike' and two killed in blast at Russian missile testing base
Casualties after missile engine explosion near Severodvinsk
Russians rush to buy iodine after blast causes radiation spike: reports
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Re: Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by PartyOf5 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:09 am

Reading this is weird. I just finished watching Chernobyl on HBO earlier this week.

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Re: Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:13 am

Maybe nuclear propulsion.

If the Russians are violating the test ban treaty to build that stuff, then we need to reboot the original Project Orion and start exploring nearby stars.

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Re: Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:22 am

Hastur wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:05 am
There is something fishy going on in Russia.

Why is radiation spiking after a jet engine exploded on a test site?
Why do they need to shut down shipping in the white sea for a month?
Why are Russians in the area stockpiling Iodine?

Radiation 'spike' and two killed in blast at Russian missile testing base
Casualties after missile engine explosion near Severodvinsk
Russians rush to buy iodine after blast causes radiation spike: reports


Or could just be a broken arrow...Shit happens...

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Re: Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by C-Mag » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:36 am

Hastur wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:05 am
There is something fishy going on in Russia.

Why is radiation spiking after a jet engine exploded on a test site?
Why do they need to shut down shipping in the white sea for a month?
Why are Russians in the area stockpiling Iodine?

Radiation 'spike' and two killed in blast at Russian missile testing base
Casualties after missile engine explosion near Severodvinsk
Russians rush to buy iodine after blast causes radiation spike: reports
Those Rascally Russians...…………. maybe they shouldn't be fucking around with nuclear power of any kind.
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Re: Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by Otern » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:40 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:13 am
Maybe nuclear propulsion.

If the Russians are violating the test ban treaty to build that stuff, then we need to reboot the original Project Orion and start exploring nearby stars.
Probably nuclear propulsion. But the test ban treaty doesn't ban nuclear propulsion. The US tested their own nuclear propulsion while the test ban treaty was in effect. The Russians are basically doing their own project Pluto. Project Orion would be in violation of the test ban treaty, as it's supposed to use nuclear explosions as propulsion. Project Pluto and Burevestnik use nuclear reactors, but not nuclear bombs for propulsion.

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Re: Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:27 am

Otern wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:40 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:13 am
Maybe nuclear propulsion.

If the Russians are violating the test ban treaty to build that stuff, then we need to reboot the original Project Orion and start exploring nearby stars.
Probably nuclear propulsion. But the test ban treaty doesn't ban nuclear propulsion. The US tested their own nuclear propulsion while the test ban treaty was in effect. The Russians are basically doing their own project Pluto. Project Orion would be in violation of the test ban treaty, as it's supposed to use nuclear explosions as propulsion. Project Pluto and Burevestnik use nuclear reactors, but not nuclear bombs for propulsion.
It does ban nuclear propulsion that works (i.e. nuclear pulse propulsion). That is what can get you to another star system or to zip on over to Mars like you are cruising across the Atlantic.

I am not sure about the other kinds, like what Stanton Friedman was working on at General Dynamics.

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Re: Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by C-Mag » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:07 am

Just a short term spike folks......….. nothing to see here

The blast occurred during testing of “isotope power sources in a liquid propulsion system” in the northern Arkhangelsk region, the company said early Saturday in a statement that didn’t specify the location of the accident. The injured suffered “burns of varying severity” and were moved to a specalist medical center for treatment, it said.


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Re: Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by Otern » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:09 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:27 am
It does ban nuclear propulsion that works (i.e. nuclear pulse propulsion). That is what can get you to another star system or to zip on over to Mars like you are cruising across the Atlantic.

I am not sure about the other kinds, like what Stanton Friedman was working on at General Dynamics.
Nuclear pulse propulsion probably works, but haven't been tested on a nuclear scale (there's a cool video of a test with conventional explosives though). Project Pluto and that Russian cruise missile use tested and proven nuclear ramjet propulsion. Basically, the missile is propelled to a high speed with conventional rockets, then the reactor kicks in an heat the air coming in the ramjet at a high speed, giving the missile thrust. So those missiles aren't covered by the test ban treaty, since it's just an unshielded, reactor, and not a bomb. It's still an absolute insane concept though, which is why the Americans called it a day after two ground tests of the engine.

Nuclear pulse propulsion is basically a lot of nuclear bombs, blowing up behind the vehicle, pushing it forward. Really only useful for space exploration. This is banned by the test ban treaty, since it's covering nuclear explosions.

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Re: Explosion near Severodvinsk - Radiation spike

Post by Hastur » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:04 am

The Russians have two nuclear propulsion projects that I've heard of. It's the 9M730 Burevestnik, a nuclear powered and armed cruise missile that will have unlimited rage and the Status-6 (or Poseidon) Oceanic Multipurpose System, a nuclear-powered and armed torpedo/drone sub.

It was probably the 9M730 Burevestnik engine they were tinkering around with if I had to guess.
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