Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

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Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by The Conservative » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:03 am

Could the president of the US write an executive order stating that a person that holds a congressional seat can not hold said seat for more than two terms, and that congress must ratify the law in its entirety?

I ask this because of the abuse Bill Clinton and Obama did (going to war, and pretty much writing laws from the desk of the presidency using executive orders) Could trump force congress to write a law?
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Re: Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:08 am

No. Would require constitutional amendment.

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Re: Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by The Conservative » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:16 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:08 am
No. Would require constitutional amendment.
There is already one for the President, couldn't he use that as a foundation for congress?
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Re: Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by Fife » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:19 am

What a shocker that "The Conservative" would imagine a dictatorial executive "solution" to the term limits question. Nothing like pouring more and more power into the swamp to "drain" it. :goteam: :drunk:

How about every once in a blue moon thinking locally and acting locally?

Wayment, that went down in some 5-4 flames (thanks Kennedy) back in '95. (Check out Thomas' dissent.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Term ... ._Thornton

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme- ... 4/779.html

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Re: Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:24 am

The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:16 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:08 am
No. Would require constitutional amendment.
There is already one for the President, couldn't he use that as a foundation for congress?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-se ... nstitution

You'd have to pass an amendment similar to that one, but for House and Senate members.
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Re: Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by pineapplemike » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:26 am

but could a strong black female president enact this rule?

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Re: Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:28 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:26 am
but could a strong black female president enact this rule?
Possible, if the critical sass level exceeds the girth of the ass.

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Re: Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:41 am

On a serious note, I'd argue that support for term limitations of any kind are tacit admission that the raison d'etre of democracy is false.

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Re: Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by Fife » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:55 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:41 am
On a serious note, I'd argue that support for term limitations of any kind are tacit admission that the raison d'etre of democracy is false.
This quote from the US Term Limits case I linked above shows the explicit reasoning of the people of Arkansas:
At the general election on November 3, 1992, the voters of Arkansas adopted Amendment 73 to their State Constitution. Proposed as a "Term Limitation Amendment," its preamble stated:

"The people of Arkansas find and declare that elected officials who remain in office too long become preoccupied with reelection and ignore their duties as representatives of the people. Entrenched incumbency has reduced voter participation and has led to an electoral system that is less free, less competitive, and less representative than the system established by the Founding Fathers. Therefore, the people of Arkansas, exercising their reserved powers, herein limit the terms of the elected officials."

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Re: Could the President of the US write an Executive Order to have term limits for Congress?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:02 am

Fife wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:55 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:41 am
On a serious note, I'd argue that support for term limitations of any kind are tacit admission that the raison d'etre of democracy is false.
This quote from the US Term Limits case I linked above shows the explicit reasoning of the people of Arkansas:
At the general election on November 3, 1992, the voters of Arkansas adopted Amendment 73 to their State Constitution. Proposed as a "Term Limitation Amendment," its preamble stated:

"The people of Arkansas find and declare that elected officials who remain in office too long become preoccupied with reelection and ignore their duties as representatives of the people. Entrenched incumbency has reduced voter participation and has led to an electoral system that is less free, less competitive, and less representative than the system established by the Founding Fathers. Therefore, the people of Arkansas, exercising their reserved powers, herein limit the terms of the elected officials."
Yet these politicians remain in office for generations because the demos continues to elect them..

If the demos cannot be trusted to make the decision to elect a new politician to some office, then nothing they vote on can be trusted. It's fundamentally flawed.