Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by StCapps » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:10 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:08 am
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:03 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:02 am
More guns means more gun murders and fewer knife murders.

If you want to be honest you need to compare the murder rate of our most violent city with the most violent city in the US.
This is why the comparison with NY and London is so dishonest. NY is one of the safer cities now because of the tight gun regs and other measures.
135 murders in London with a population of ten million.
That's 0.135 per thousand
That is half the rate of America's 30th most murderous (Lakeland Florida).
If more gun control equals less gun murders, than how come the cities with the highest gun murder rates all have tight gun regs and the cities with lower rates have less tight gun regs?
Because there are no uniform reg's. Tough laws in one State/city and lax ones in the next.
Even Mexico bitches about the number of unregulated guns crossing the border.
Most of the guns are not out of state or out of city committing these crimes though, so that isn't the reason why tighter gun regs dont work. Most of the guns used in these crimes would be illegal in looser regulated areas anyway, illegal guns commit most of the crimes, not legal ones in looser regulated areas being smuggled into tighter regulation areas.

Lax guns laws are not raising gun violence rates in high gun crime areas with tight regs, that's a bullshit talking point.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:12 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:10 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:08 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:03 am
If more gun control equals less gun murders, than how come the cities with the highest gun murder rates all have tight gun regs and the cities with lower rates have less tight gun regs?
Because there are no uniform reg's. Tough laws in one State/city and lax ones in the next.
Even Mexico bitches about the number of unregulated guns crossing the border.
Most of the guns are not out of state or out of city committing these crimes though, so that isn't the reason why tighter gun regs dont work.
How the fuck do you know that when there's no effective gun registry in most States?
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by StCapps » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:13 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:12 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:10 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:08 am


Because there are no uniform reg's. Tough laws in one State/city and lax ones in the next.
Even Mexico bitches about the number of unregulated guns crossing the border.
Most of the guns are not out of state or out of city committing these crimes though, so that isn't the reason why tighter gun regs dont work.
How the fuck do you know that when there's no effective gun registry in most States?
Because of who they catch with the weapons after they commit the crimes, and they see the serial numbers filed off and shit. So that is already illegal in the looser regulated areas, and has little to do with the high gun crime rates in higher reg areas. You don't need a registry to look at stats for people who got caught committing crimes with guns and examine the guns they are caught using, to find out most gun crimes are committed by people using illegal purchased or modified firearms.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:16 am

If you'd have watched the video, all the crime stats are up, not just knifings. Murder is up. Rape is up. Robbery is up. Vandalism is up.

Stop being such a dumbass and trying to refute a video you refuse to watch.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:23 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:16 am
If you'd have watched the video, all the crime stats are up, not just knifings. Murder is up. Rape is up. Robbery is up. Vandalism is up.

Stop being such a dumbass and trying to refute a video you refuse to watch.
..and the population is increasing while the numbers of policemen are falling due to Tory cuts.
You need all the facts before you spout off stats or it makes you look like a dishonest hack.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:27 am

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:32 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:23 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:16 am
If you'd have watched the video, all the crime stats are up, not just knifings. Murder is up. Rape is up. Robbery is up. Vandalism is up.

Stop being such a dumbass and trying to refute a video you refuse to watch.
..and the population is increasing while the numbers of policemen are falling due to Tory cuts.
You need all the facts before you spout off stats or it makes you look like a dishonest hack.
Again, if people had bothered to watch the God damned video before opining on it like total dipshits, the violent crime rates rose proportionally to that Muslim mayor's decision of ending police policies like stop and frisk. Further, most of the upwards of 40% increases in violent crime were happening in black and Muslim immigrant colonies within the city. It is so bad, there are clips of Somali mothers admitting they sent their children back to Somalia because it is safer there than in London.


If you want to know what being a hack looks like, look no further than you two dumbasses arguing about a video neither of you watched, and making points totally irrelevant to the argument that was made.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by StCapps » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:35 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:32 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:23 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:16 am
If you'd have watched the video, all the crime stats are up, not just knifings. Murder is up. Rape is up. Robbery is up. Vandalism is up.

Stop being such a dumbass and trying to refute a video you refuse to watch.
..and the population is increasing while the numbers of policemen are falling due to Tory cuts.
You need all the facts before you spout off stats or it makes you look like a dishonest hack.
Again, if people had bothered to watch the God damned video before opining on it like total dipshits, the violent crime rates rose proportionally to that Muslim mayor's decision of ending police policies like stop and frisk. Further, most of the upwards of 40% increases in violent crime were happening in black and Muslim immigrant colonies within the city. It is so bad, there are clips of Somali mothers admitting they sent their children back to Somalia because it is safer there than in London.


If you want to know what being a hack looks like, look no further than you two dumbasses arguing about a video neither of you watched, and making points totally irrelevant to the argument that was made.
I'm not arguing over a video, I'm arguing against montegriffo's idiotic points.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:35 am

Monty, for example, launched into this retarded tirade about knife crime, and when confronted with the fact that he never even bothered to watch the video and got the facts presented wrong, proclaimed he watched two minutes if it.

Yet the first two minutes were about the overcrowding and the fact that the Thames is completely polluted with human shit. The violent crime was covered towards the end of the video.

He watched none of it and none of what he posted had fuck all to do with the video.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:42 am

Murder rate in Somalia 4.3 per 100k

Murder rate in London 1.3 per 100k

She must be one of your low IQ Africans.
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