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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:56 am

And.. there is why the liberals are not going to vote for an old white dude like Biden. LMFAO.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by clubgop » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:03 pm

StCapps wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:51 am
clubgop wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:48 am
StCapps wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:09 pm
There is no Obama in 2020 to do to Biden what Obama did to Hillary. Hillary did not need chicanery to win in 2016, without it she still would have easily won.
Bullshit, there is a Beto, if the press had any juice left they could put him over hard. As for 2016 there was plenty of chicanery that went on that made a difference. Clinton financially owned the DNC they werent allowed to spend on GOTV, they purged people from primary voter rolls in certain states, scheduled primary debates on Saturday, during NFL playoffs. They gilded that lily so well there is no way of knowing how a straight up contest would have gone.
Beto is not Obama, Obama had talent, Beto does not. Beto is a complete lightweight, Obama was a political force. There is no Obama, the field is nowhere near that strong, don't be silly.
Buying that messiah stuff on Obama long after the petals fell off that rose is what is silly. Liberals need a messiah, for christ sakes they sold t shirts and prayer candles for Robert Mueller. What talent did he have? Besides putting people to sleep. The talent is being a novice, the unknown. A vessel you dump your Hope's and dreams into. If that Bootydude wasn't gay it would be him, if Beto wasn't such a stoner it could be him. It ain't Biden, totally known, totally old. You are mistaking name ID for talent, or novelty for talent. That's some dumbassery.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:25 pm

Sorry dude, Obama was a great campaigner, if you can't see that, you're just being a dolt. No one in the 2020 Democrat field has his talent for campaigning, there is no Obama in 2020, you can't just turn any unknown into Obama, that's not how it works.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by clubgop » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:38 am

StCapps wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:25 pm
Sorry dude, Obama was a great campaigner, if you can't see that, you're just being a dolt. No one in the 2020 Democrat field has his talent for campaigning, there is no Obama in 2020, you can't just turn any unknown into Obama, that's not how it works.
What campaigner, the digital stuff, the social media thing? That was a team that wasnt him. Retail politics like you give him credit for dont play in a nationwide campaign. Get a grip. He was the newness.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:49 am

clubgop wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:38 am
StCapps wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:25 pm
Sorry dude, Obama was a great campaigner, if you can't see that, you're just being a dolt. No one in the 2020 Democrat field has his talent for campaigning, there is no Obama in 2020, you can't just turn any unknown into Obama, that's not how it works.
What campaigner, the digital stuff, the social media thing? That was a team that wasnt him. Get a grip. He was the newness.
The speeches fool. Dude knew how to fire up his base and plenty of swing voters with his oratory, stop being drtrech level obtuse, you know exactly what I am talking about. The man has charisma and is decently funny as well, stop playing dumb, the Democrats have no one like that running in the 2020 primary, no one close. Just being a fresh face is not enough, you have to actually have skill to pull off what Obama pulled off, being the newness was not the secret to his success, it helped him sure, but not that much.

Not just any blank slate the media can project on is another Obama, be real.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by clubgop » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:12 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:49 am
clubgop wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:38 am
StCapps wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:25 pm
Sorry dude, Obama was a great campaigner, if you can't see that, you're just being a dolt. No one in the 2020 Democrat field has his talent for campaigning, there is no Obama in 2020, you can't just turn any unknown into Obama, that's not how it works.
What campaigner, the digital stuff, the social media thing? That was a team that wasnt him. Get a grip. He was the newness.
The speeches fool. Dude knew how to fire up his base and plenty of swing voters with his oratory, stop being drtrech level obtuse, you know exactly what I am talking about. The man has charisma and is decently funny as well, stop playing dumb, the Democrats have no one like that running in the 2020 primary, no one close. Just being a fresh face is not enough, you have to actually have skill to pull off what Obama pulled off, being the newness was not the secret to his success, it helped him sure, but not that much.

Not just any blank slate the media can project on is another Obama, be real.
Oh lord that is some dick sucking right there some dirty dick levels "last great statesman." That oratory is meaningless without that new car smell. He wasnt promising to stop the rise of the oceans and all that other high featuring sh8t in 2012 because he went from car salesman to used car salesman had to change his approach. You were mesmerized by stage direction and reading a teleprompter and only for about 2 years. Once that picture was taken of him talking to elementary school kids using a teleprompter and the when the teleprompter took a shit he sounded like a DJ scratching a record while on horseback and having a stroke. Thanks for proving my point.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:20 am

clubgop wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:12 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:49 am
clubgop wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:38 am


What campaigner, the digital stuff, the social media thing? That was a team that wasnt him. Get a grip. He was the newness.
The speeches fool. Dude knew how to fire up his base and plenty of swing voters with his oratory, stop being drtrech level obtuse, you know exactly what I am talking about. The man has charisma and is decently funny as well, stop playing dumb, the Democrats have no one like that running in the 2020 primary, no one close. Just being a fresh face is not enough, you have to actually have skill to pull off what Obama pulled off, being the newness was not the secret to his success, it helped him sure, but not that much.

Not just any blank slate the media can project on is another Obama, be real.
Oh lord that is some dick sucking right there some dirty dick levels "last great statesman." That oratory is meaningless without that new car smell. He wasnt promising to stop the rise of the oceans and all that other high featuring sh8t in 2012 because he went from car salesman to used car salesman had to change his approach. You were mesmerized by stage direction and reading a teleprompter and only for about 2 years. Once that picture was taken of him talking to elementary school kids using a teleprompter and the when the teleprompter took a shit he sounded like a DJ scratching a record while on horseback and having a stroke. Thanks for proving my point.
New car smell doesn't win elections, you need more than a fresh face, you need a fresh face who can sell a used car, if they can't sell, it doesn't matter how fresh their face is. Used car salesman skills are the most important part of the equation, fresh face is just a cherry on top.
Obama was a helluva used car salesman, much better than Hillary, McCain and Romney, Trump was head and shoulders better as a used car salesman than everyone he faced in 2016, that's why they won.

The Democrats have no fresh face who can sell in 2020, if they did, Biden would be doomed, but they don't, so he's not doomed. Democrats don't have an Obama or Bill Clinton in 2020, analysis that pretends they do, is doomed to inaccuracy.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:36 am

He may have needed a teleprompter, but when he had one, he killed it. Obama knew how to sell himself much better than any politician he ever faced knew how to sell themselves, to pretend he had no skill at campaigning because you don't like his policies and his performance as POTUS, is to miss the forest for the trees.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:45 am

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Capitalism is going to fall - the question is, how will the looters remove me from my home and property?