Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[Martin Hash]

??? R U saying there is zero chance Britain leaves the EU?

[Montegriffo]

Doesn't matter that you "disagree", or who you support in the US. Your understanding of EU politics is limited to Britain and views from Britain. The absolutely biggest losers this EU parliament election were EU parties who wanted to leave the EU altogether. Le Pen and Salvini in France and Italy, nor the Poles or Hungarians want to leave the EU. They want a different EU.

The hard euroskeptics, those who want to ditch EU altogether quite simply don't have any power anymore. Brexit was merely Britain, and EU is considerably bigger than Britain. It only served to make euroskeptics even more sure that they didn't want to leave the EU. What they do want, is to be the ones to influence which direction it should go, instead of leaving that entirely up to the likes of Merkel and Macron.

This is the Brexiteers biggest mistake.
They believe we will be free of influence from the EU after Brexit. In reality, we will still have to jump through the EU's hoops in order to continue trading but we lose any influence in what the hoops are.
Germany and France will be free to turn the EU into the Federal State they fear and loathe so much.

Your biggest mistake is not realizing it is the other way around. The EU will have to jump through hoops to trade with you, if you so choose to create such hoops. You are not an export economy. To Germany, you are a market. Germany needs access to your market. You hold the power in that relationship.

We are a service economy.
London is the banking capital of Europe.
The banking institutions are now leaving for Frankfurt taking the trade with them.
The most productive car factory in the UK is the Nissan plant in Sunderland. The only reason Nissan invested the money needed to build it is access to the European market.
Nissan is now scaling down production at the plant.
To suggest that the EU needs us more than we need them is ill-informed at best.

[PartyOf5]

So the UK is the EUs bitch either way.

I remember hearing about how the savior of the US economy after the mass exodus of manufacturing was going to be the service economy. That never worked out well.

[Montegriffo]

So the UK is the EUs bitch either way.

I remember hearing about how the savior of the US economy after the mass exodus of manufacturing was going to be the service economy. That never worked out well.

It has served us well since Thatcher destroyed the manufacturing industry in favour of globalism back in the 80s.
Now we are throwing the service industry off the roof in order to stick it to the globalists.
Maggie is spinning so hard in her grave her rotten corpse could power an entire city.

[BjornP]

It curious how foreigners understand the U.S. but we’re too stupid to understand you?

No one thinks you're "stupid". Just uninformed. Europeans do understand Americans and American politics and culture alot better than Americans understand Europeans. Again, nothing to do with "stupid" and everything to do with your education system's priorities and abilities. Europeans generally know more about American culture, because we're all bombarded with American cultural influences and have been for decades - and because the US is the sole superpower and therefore news channels tend to follow and analyze US politics regularly, because it affects more countries than, say, Liechtenstein.

[Speaker to Animals]

In my experience, the European understanding of America comes from television and fake news. That is to say: they don't know shit.

They think we live like everything is The Wire or whatever. It's really funny in a way. They fell in love with our multiculturalism so much, they are going to get exactly what they think we live like in their own cities.

[BjornP]

In my experience, the European understanding of America comes from television and fake news. That is to say: they don't know shit.

They think we live like everything is The Wire or whatever. It's really funny in a way.

When it comes to the details of everyday American life, sure, there are stereotypes and misconceptions borne from popular culture, but generally speaking, Europeans simply know more of the basic facts about the US than the other way around. Like basic geography, form of government, language, that sort of thing.

[Speaker to Animals]

In my experience, the European understanding of America comes from television and fake news. That is to say: they don't know shit.

They think we live like everything is The Wire or whatever. It's really funny in a way.

When it comes to the details of everyday American life, sure, there are stereotypes and misconceptions borne from popular culture, but generally speaking, Europeans simply know more of the basic facts about the US than the other way around. Like basic geography, form of government, language, that sort of thing.

Doubtful.

I think the average Eurotrash is about as ignorant as the average trailer park dummy in the American rust belt.

[BjornP]

Doubtful.

I think the average Eurotrash is about as ignorant as the average trailer park dummy in the American rust belt.

You'd think wrong.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trav ... raphy.html

https://www.newsweek.com/how-ignorant-a ... cans-66053

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.117 ... 6001002003

[Speaker to Animals]

Doubtful.

I think the average Eurotrash is about as ignorant as the average trailer park dummy in the American rust belt.

You'd think wrong.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trav ... raphy.html

https://www.newsweek.com/how-ignorant-a ... cans-66053

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.117 ... 6001002003

Yeah, the problem is you have to identify which demographic is being tested. You see a similar problem when you look at average IQ. The average IQ of Americans is lower than that of Europeans, but if you just look at white Americans, it's about the same.