2020 election

[StCapps]

[StCapps]

@StA

The Merkel crowd won the most seats, but the EU elections are somehow indicative that the establishment is doomed, great analysis dumbass.

The leader of the ENF even lost his seat, and all the anti-EU parties finished with less seats than the establishment parties, but yeah any outsider is automatically at an advantage.


To think that EU elections somehow show that you are right, is next level idiocy.

[clubgop]

Swing voters might care, partisan Democrats don't. Without fresh gaffes to sink him, Biden will coast to the nomination like Romney did.

Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself.

Sounds like your mind reading skills could use some work.

Democrats have known about Creepy Uncle Joe for a while, all indications are that they don't care like people on this forum care. Biden wouldn't have such a commanding lead over the rest of the field and never would have announced knowing he was dead in the water, if the views of this forum were reflected in the views of Democrat primary voters. Yet he has that big lead, and he did announce, despite all the Creepy Uncle Joe shit already being out there, so clearly Biden believes they don't care and all indications back up the assumption that he is correct about that.

I ain't try to convince myself, I am trying to convince people who are blinded by their dislike of Biden into thinking everyone else must not like Biden for the same reasons that they don't, even when reality clearly doesn't reflect that wishful thinking.

Blah, blah, blah, no one is paying attention right now. Name recognition, name recognition, name recognition, you sound like the Carlin forum in '07 or '15 about Hillary. Everybody likes Biden until they find someone else. There is 3 other times where that has happened.

[StCapps]

Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself.

Sounds like your mind reading skills could use some work.

Democrats have known about Creepy Uncle Joe for a while, all indications are that they don't care like people on this forum care. Biden wouldn't have such a commanding lead over the rest of the field and never would have announced knowing he was dead in the water, if the views of this forum were reflected in the views of Democrat primary voters. Yet he has that big lead, and he did announce, despite all the Creepy Uncle Joe shit already being out there, so clearly Biden believes they don't care and all indications back up the assumption that he is correct about that.

I ain't try to convince myself, I am trying to convince people who are blinded by their dislike of Biden into thinking everyone else must not like Biden for the same reasons that they don't, even when reality clearly doesn't reflect that wishful thinking.

Blah, blah, blah, no one is paying attention right now. Name recognition, name recognition, name recognition, you sound like the Carlin forum in '07 or '15 about Hillary. Everybody likes Biden until they find someone else. There is 3 other times where that has happened.

Hillary won in 2016, it wasn't even close, there is no Obama in the Democrat field to derail Biden in 2020, and in 2016 there was no Obama to derail Clinton. If it wasn't for Obama, Hillary would have been POTUS.

If Biden chokes, it will be a self inflicted wound, not Obama 2.0 coming along. If the Democrats even have an Obama waiting in the wings, they are keeping their powder dry until 2024, and Biden doesn't have to worry about them.

[C-Mag]

Hillary won in 2016, it wasn't even close, there is no Obama in the Democrat field to derail Biden in 2020, and in 2016 there was no Obama to derail Clinton. If it wasn't for Obama, Hillary would have been POTUS.

That's because it was rigged for Hillary. Amazingly her first slogan was, ITS HER TURN.
That deal was brokered in the Spring of 2008. That was supposed to be Hillary's turn, but BHO was a much stronger candidate and deal was made. BHO gets the Dem nod in 08 and 12. Hillary gets Sec of State and a War to shore up her foreign policy weaknesses.

They run the table for 16 years and fundamentally transform America and the world. During that time they get Western governments filled with their kind of SJWs, Trudeau, Red Francais, etc.
In 2016 or 18 BHO becomes UN Secretary General. Done deal, World government around the corner as all nations surrender with the first legal leg of that being Climate Change treaties.

[StCapps]

Hillary won in 2016, it wasn't even close, there is no Obama in the Democrat field to derail Biden in 2020, and in 2016 there was no Obama to derail Clinton. If it wasn't for Obama, Hillary would have been POTUS.

That's because it was rigged for Hillary. Amazingly her first slogan was, ITS HER TURN.
That deal was brokered in the Spring of 2008. That was supposed to be Hillary's turn, but BHO was a much stronger candidate and deal was made. BHO gets the Dem nod in 08 and 12. Hillary gets Sec of State and a War to shore up her foreign policy weaknesses.

Hillary won in 2016 because Sanders was a lightweight and she had no real competition, the rigging made no substantive difference. Sanders is still a lightweight, and he's the toughest competition Biden has.

The non-establishment field is even more crowded in 2020, and that vote splitting makes Biden the clear frontrunner, even if the vote wasn't split, the lack of a strong non-establishment candidate who can win would still not be that tough to beat. It's Biden's nomination to lose, he can still piss it away, but there is no Obama in his way.

[C-Mag]

I may have to play devils advocate and argue that Dems will win big in 2020

[StCapps]

I may have to play devils advocate and argue that Dems will win big in 2020

It's a hard case to make, all they got are some early polls in head to head matchups with Trump that look pretty good right now, as far as I can tell.

ZOMG Biden +11 in a FOX News poll, Drumpf is doomed naow!
Biden +11 in Pennsylvania says Quinnipiac, the Blue Wall is back!
Biden is +5 Arizona, Biden up +1 in Texas, Emerson and OH Predictive Insights say so, Southwest Flip if Biden wins, get hype!

That kind of thing.

[C-Mag]

Their efforts to get states to give their electoral votes to the popular vote winner could have an impact coupled with their ground game(vote fraud)

[StCapps]

Their efforts to get states to give their electoral votes to the popular vote winner could have an impact coupled with their ground game(vote fraud)

Meh. Restoring the Blue Wall is their only real chance, Biden is the only candidate who comes anywhere near doing that. They probably lose the popular vote this time, could easily backfire on them.