Blah, blah, blah, no one is paying attention right now. Name recognition, name recognition, name recognition, you sound like the Carlin forum in '07 or '15 about Hillary. Everybody likes Biden until they find someone else. There is 3 other times where that has happened.StCapps wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 1:52 amSounds like your mind reading skills could use some work.
Democrats have known about Creepy Uncle Joe for a while, all indications are that they don't care like people on this forum care. Biden wouldn't have such a commanding lead over the rest of the field and never would have announced knowing he was dead in the water, if the views of this forum were reflected in the views of Democrat primary voters. Yet he has that big lead, and he did announce, despite all the Creepy Uncle Joe shit already being out there, so clearly Biden believes they don't care and all indications back up the assumption that he is correct about that.
I ain't try to convince myself, I am trying to convince people who are blinded by their dislike of Biden into thinking everyone else must not like Biden for the same reasons that they don't, even when reality clearly doesn't reflect that wishful thinking.
Hillary won in 2016, it wasn't even close, there is no Obama in the Democrat field to derail Biden in 2020, and in 2016 there was no Obama to derail Clinton. If it wasn't for Obama, Hillary would have been POTUS.clubgop wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 7:06 pmBlah, blah, blah, no one is paying attention right now. Name recognition, name recognition, name recognition, you sound like the Carlin forum in '07 or '15 about Hillary. Everybody likes Biden until they find someone else. There is 3 other times where that has happened.StCapps wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 1:52 amSounds like your mind reading skills could use some work.
Democrats have known about Creepy Uncle Joe for a while, all indications are that they don't care like people on this forum care. Biden wouldn't have such a commanding lead over the rest of the field and never would have announced knowing he was dead in the water, if the views of this forum were reflected in the views of Democrat primary voters. Yet he has that big lead, and he did announce, despite all the Creepy Uncle Joe shit already being out there, so clearly Biden believes they don't care and all indications back up the assumption that he is correct about that.
I ain't try to convince myself, I am trying to convince people who are blinded by their dislike of Biden into thinking everyone else must not like Biden for the same reasons that they don't, even when reality clearly doesn't reflect that wishful thinking.
That's because it was rigged for Hillary. Amazingly her first slogan was, ITS HER TURN.StCapps wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 7:16 pm Hillary won in 2016, it wasn't even close, there is no Obama in the Democrat field to derail Biden in 2020, and in 2016 there was no Obama to derail Clinton. If it wasn't for Obama, Hillary would have been POTUS.
Hillary won in 2016 because Sanders was a lightweight and she had no real competition, the rigging made no substantive difference. Sanders is still a lightweight, and he's the toughest competition Biden has.C-Mag wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 9:42 pmThat's because it was rigged for Hillary. Amazingly her first slogan was, ITS HER TURN.StCapps wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 7:16 pm Hillary won in 2016, it wasn't even close, there is no Obama in the Democrat field to derail Biden in 2020, and in 2016 there was no Obama to derail Clinton. If it wasn't for Obama, Hillary would have been POTUS.
That deal was brokered in the Spring of 2008. That was supposed to be Hillary's turn, but BHO was a much stronger candidate and deal was made. BHO gets the Dem nod in 08 and 12. Hillary gets Sec of State and a War to shore up her foreign policy weaknesses.
It's a hard case to make, all they got are some early polls in head to head matchups with Trump that look pretty good right now, as far as I can tell.C-Mag wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:04 am I may have to play devils advocate and argue that Dems will win big in 2020
Meh. Restoring the Blue Wall is their only real chance, Biden is the only candidate who comes anywhere near doing that. They probably lose the popular vote this time, could easily backfire on them.C-Mag wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:22 am Their efforts to get states to give their electoral votes to the popular vote winner could have an impact coupled with their ground game(vote fraud)