Game of Thrones - mostly

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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by DrYouth » Tue May 07, 2019 12:08 pm

And Jon gets crowned upon a heap of dead bodies...
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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by Kath » Tue May 07, 2019 12:09 pm

My guess is the last show (or a chunk of it,) is at some future point, say 2-5 years, showing all the wonderfulness that the game of thrones ushered in.
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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by DrYouth » Tue May 07, 2019 12:11 pm

StCapps wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:07 pm
As for Dany, it's Darcarys time, burn them all.
For sure...

But I wonder how they will deal with all the big scorpions on the towers.

One dragon and a handful of exhausted troops...

How is this gonna work out?

Grayworm and Arya gonna take everyone out from pure rage.
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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by StCapps » Tue May 07, 2019 12:13 pm

Kath wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:09 pm
My guess is the last show (or a chunk of it,) is at some future point, say 2-5 years, showing all the wonderfulness that the game of thrones ushered in.
I think the last shot will be whoever takes the throne being crowned while sitting on the throne, ending on a close up, then the end credits.
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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by Kath » Tue May 07, 2019 12:13 pm

Drogon is going bye bye.
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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by brewster » Tue May 07, 2019 12:26 pm

StCapps wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 11:48 am
Too much focus on tactics over strategy from the complainers here, missing the big picture to complain about one scene they didn't like. The point of that scene was not to make the best scene possible, it was to speed up the pace for the sake of the rest of the show, and it was a wise decision. The scene did what it was designed to do, you might have wanted that scene to be designed to do something else, but that wasn't the focus of that scene, and rightfully so in a strategic long view sense.
Nope. Building believability is like a building house, you can't skimp or it falls down. What drew people into this story was the details of both the production and the writing. People acted in plausible ways for plausible reasons. The magic was extremely limited and constrained to certain circumstances. The world they built and the people and technology in it acted like everything we know of our own medieval history, which was exactly the point. When you break that, you break everything.

Tossing in a new weapon as implausibly effective as the scorpions was as world breaking as having Qyburn build steam powered tanks. Just having them surprise a fleet was simply absurd and belief breaking to anyone with the slightest naval or military knowledge. Even without the dragons any competent Admiral has small, fast, scout ships on his periphery for just this reason. They serve the same purpose as cavalry by land, to gather intel. Using flag signals a ship ten miles away can easily communicate back to the commander, and daisy chaining these scouts together was how fleets controlled large areas of sea. How the fuck do you think the Royal Navy blockaded the French in the their ports for decades? The scene proposed criminally incompetent sea officers, something we previously have not seen. Fail.
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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by DrYouth » Tue May 07, 2019 12:49 pm

Kath wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:13 pm
Drogon is going bye bye.
She needs Drogon for her Mad Queen climax...

No Drogon... no reason to kill her... and she is slated for death... the writing is on the wall.

On her own she is just a woman who threatens no one.... with her dragon she is Mad Queen.... with napalm at her command.

Once she dies, of course Drogon will die.
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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue May 07, 2019 1:08 pm

brewster wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:26 pm
StCapps wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 11:48 am
Too much focus on tactics over strategy from the complainers here, missing the big picture to complain about one scene they didn't like. The point of that scene was not to make the best scene possible, it was to speed up the pace for the sake of the rest of the show, and it was a wise decision. The scene did what it was designed to do, you might have wanted that scene to be designed to do something else, but that wasn't the focus of that scene, and rightfully so in a strategic long view sense.
Nope. Building believability is like a building house, you can't skimp or it falls down. What drew people into this story was the details of both the production and the writing. People acted in plausible ways for plausible reasons. The magic was extremely limited and constrained to certain circumstances. The world they built and the people and technology in it acted like everything we know of our own medieval history, which was exactly the point. When you break that, you break everything.

Tossing in a new weapon as implausibly effective as the scorpions was as world breaking as having Qyburn build steam powered tanks. Just having them surprise a fleet was simply absurd and belief breaking to anyone with the slightest naval or military knowledge. Even without the dragons any competent Admiral has small, fast, scout ships on his periphery for just this reason. They serve the same purpose as cavalry by land, to gather intel. Using flag signals a ship ten miles away can easily communicate back to the commander, and daisy chaining these scouts together was how fleets controlled large areas of sea. How the fuck do you think the Royal Navy blockaded the French in the their ports for decades? The scene proposed criminally incompetent sea officers, something we previously have not seen. Fail.
Fleets use picket ships for this.

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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by StCapps » Tue May 07, 2019 1:45 pm

brewster wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:26 pm
StCapps wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 11:48 am
Too much focus on tactics over strategy from the complainers here, missing the big picture to complain about one scene they didn't like. The point of that scene was not to make the best scene possible, it was to speed up the pace for the sake of the rest of the show, and it was a wise decision. The scene did what it was designed to do, you might have wanted that scene to be designed to do something else, but that wasn't the focus of that scene, and rightfully so in a strategic long view sense.
Nope. Building believability is like a building house, you can't skimp or it falls down. What drew people into this story was the details of both the production and the writing. People acted in plausible ways for plausible reasons. The magic was extremely limited and constrained to certain circumstances. The world they built and the people and technology in it acted like everything we know of our own medieval history, which was exactly the point. When you break that, you break everything.

Tossing in a new weapon as implausibly effective as the scorpions was as world breaking as having Qyburn build steam powered tanks. Just having them surprise a fleet was simply absurd and belief breaking to anyone with the slightest naval or military knowledge. Even without the dragons any competent Admiral has small, fast, scout ships on his periphery for just this reason. They serve the same purpose as cavalry by land, to gather intel. Using flag signals a ship ten miles away can easily communicate back to the commander, and daisy chaining these scouts together was how fleets controlled large areas of sea. How the fuck do you think the Royal Navy blockaded the French in the their ports for decades? The scene proposed criminally incompetent sea officers, something we previously have not seen. Fail.
No. They had overpowered Dragons, and they needed a way to make them vulnerable, so the dreamed up a weapon, that could do so, this wasn't the first time the weapon made an appearance, the first time it was smaller and less effective, this time it had more bite, after a redesign. It's not world breaking, you're just being silly. They sunk a few ships and surprised a dragon, time to move on. Incompetence is a thing, Dany's side doesn't have a great navy, Cersei does, so they got fucked up on the sea, that's not unbelievable.

Realistic military encounters is not what the show was built on, it's a fantasy show, first you get pissed about zombie killing weapons, and now you're pissed about dragon killing weapons, the show skimps on realism for dramatic twists all the time, you're being silly. It's not about realism, it's about entertaining television, if realism gets in the way of that, they don't give a shit, and you shouldn't expect them too.
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Re: Game of Thrones - mostly

Post by StCapps » Tue May 07, 2019 1:54 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:49 pm
Kath wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:13 pm
Drogon is going bye bye.
She needs Drogon for her Mad Queen climax...

No Drogon... no reason to kill her... and she is slated for death... the writing is on the wall.

On her own she is just a woman who threatens no one.... with her dragon she is Mad Queen.... with napalm at her command.

Once she dies, of course Drogon will die.
Or Jon gets to keep Drogon after Dany dies. I can see a way Drogon lives, however, killing it is also very likely.
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