brewster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:53 pm
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:02 pm
Wasn't me that tried to make this a personal/individual challenge but once it went there I am happy to compare my footprint to anyone else here.
Who else only uses solar energy to run their home?
No a/c.
No fossil fuels to heat my home.
Composting toilet using zero water and zero energy to recycle my waste.
No meat in my diet.
You're letting them define the playing field when they don't believe the game is real. Not one of them believes global warming is real, or that it's worth changing even the slightest behavior. The entirety of this dialog has been denial, deflection and fictions. Like the fact that China is a bigger net emitter of CO2 absolves us of doing anything all to reduce our fossil fuel consumption. It's like a thief asking the judge to set him free just because someone else stole more.
I still fail to understand why conservatives in general have been so hostile to environmentalism for the past 60 years. Is it simply greed, that it might cost them something? Partly, but I think it's also "I'm free to do whatever I want, and if I want to pollute and destroy the earth, that's my right". A 'tragedy of the commons' variant.
America is doing a better job of reducing it's Co2 emissions than any other country on the planet, despite it's lack of virtue signaling about it and claiming Climate Doomsday is right around the corner.
What more do you want? America is doing a better job than anyone else, and it's still not good enough for you? Fuck off brewster, America is not the problem here, even if America had net zero carbon emissions, it wouldn't make that much of a difference if China and India keep increasing their emissions anywhere near the rate they are now, and they will continue to do so, because they need to industrialize to actually get to first world status.
The only way to reduce global carbon emissions is to hold back developing nations from ever achieving first world status, and that isn't going to happen. You want to blame people for carbon emissions, blame China and India, they are far worse offenders, per capita doesn't mean shit.