Socialism

[heydaralon]

America will survive the thermonuclear war, it wouldn't be the end of America, although you could lose the war, lose your Hegenomy that is.

Not if we take everybody else out. Not that I'd want to live after a major nuclear exchange anyway. I'd be all deformed, missing my teeth and radiation sick as a mangy dog. Or I'd not die from the radiation and starve to death. I'd rather just get fried instantly.

There are not enough nukes to do that and, even if so, the calculus of nuclear war dictates that you go 100% against your opponent in an attempt to cripple his ability to launch against you and to mobilize for conventional war afterward.

I think we should get the department of energy to ratchet back up Nuke production then. We need to have enough to take out the whole planet 3 times over. Let niggas know that we are all in this together. We go down, and we take all of you with us and then some. That's how you send a message when you are running the US govt.

[Speaker to Animals]

Not if we take everybody else out. Not that I'd want to live after a major nuclear exchange anyway. I'd be all deformed, missing my teeth and radiation sick as a mangy dog. Or I'd not die from the radiation and starve to death. I'd rather just get fried instantly.

There are not enough nukes to do that and, even if so, the calculus of nuclear war dictates that you go 100% against your opponent in an attempt to cripple his ability to launch against you and to mobilize for conventional war afterward.

I think we should get the department of energy to ratchet back up Nuke production then. We need to have enough to take out the whole planet 3 times over. Let niggas know that we are all in this together. We go down, and we take all of you with us and then some. That's how you send a message when you are running the US govt.

Nukes are overrated, honestly.

[heydaralon]

There are not enough nukes to do that and, even if so, the calculus of nuclear war dictates that you go 100% against your opponent in an attempt to cripple his ability to launch against you and to mobilize for conventional war afterward.

I think we should get the department of energy to ratchet back up Nuke production then. We need to have enough to take out the whole planet 3 times over. Let niggas know that we are all in this together. We go down, and we take all of you with us and then some. That's how you send a message when you are running the US govt.

Nukes are overrated, honestly.

Tell that to Hwen. His grandparents got the nagasaki blue plate special...

[Speaker to Animals]

I think we should get the department of energy to ratchet back up Nuke production then. We need to have enough to take out the whole planet 3 times over. Let niggas know that we are all in this together. We go down, and we take all of you with us and then some. That's how you send a message when you are running the US govt.

Nukes are overrated, honestly.

Tell that to Hwen. His grandparents got the nagasaki blue plate special...

LeMay's firebombing campaigns were a fuck ton more destructive than those atomic bombs. Where the atomic bombs shined was in their efficiency. We proved we could just leisurely exterminate the Japanese if they did not surrender, at much lower economic costs.

America's military might has always been economic. Either out-producing the enemy or making warfare efficient as we did there. The USAF always talks in industrial terms too. We talk about sortie production and use industrial metrics. It's just a factory of death.

[Speaker to Animals]

Even in the Cold War stalemate, our secret to success was that we could easily defeat the Soviets economically. We literally bankrupted them by forcing them to constantly compete with warhead production to keep up with the arms race. I don't for a moment believe the Reaganites actually believed it would work, but it did.

[Smitty-48]

Not if we take everybody else out. Not that I'd want to live after a major nuclear exchange anyway. I'd be all deformed, missing my teeth and radiation sick as a mangy dog. Or I'd not die from the radiation and starve to death. I'd rather just get fried instantly.

There are not enough nukes to do that and, even if so, the calculus of nuclear war dictates that you go 100% against your opponent in an attempt to cripple his ability to launch against you and to mobilize for conventional war afterward.

I think we should get the department of energy to ratchet back up Nuke production then. We need to have enough to take out the whole planet 3 times over. Let niggas know that we are all in this together. We go down, and we take all of you with us and then some. That's how you send a message when you are running the US govt.

It's not so much about mass for America.

America can leverage situational awareness, stealth, precision, and strategic defense enablers.

It's not so much about more, but better. Better, smarter, faster, stealthier.

[heydaralon]

Nukes are overrated, honestly.

Tell that to Hwen. His grandparents got the nagasaki blue plate special...

LeMay's firebombing campaigns were a fuck ton more destructive than those atomic bombs. Where the atomic bombs shined was in their efficiency. We proved we could just leisurely exterminate the Japanese if they did not surrender, at much lower economic costs.

America's military might has always been economic. Either out-producing the enemy or making warfare efficient as we did there. The USAF always talks in industrial terms too. We talk about sortie production and use industrial metrics. It's just a factory of death.

I wonder if we could do that with China. Just ramp up production, get them to as well, and bankrupt their chinky asses, or at least force them to take away from the budget in other things. They might not take the bait. Idk man.

[heydaralon]

America will survive the thermonuclear war, it wouldn't be the end of America, although you could lose the war, lose your Hegenomy that is.

Not if we take everybody else out. Not that I'd want to live after a major nuclear exchange anyway. I'd be all deformed, missing my teeth and radiation sick as a mangy dog. Or I'd not die from the radiation and starve to death. I'd rather just get fried instantly.

Thus why I say you should be building a Supercounterforce next generation post-MAD deterrent.

It's both a better deterrent, and should deterrence fail, the Supercounterforce ensures that America wins with comparatively light casualties.

You talked about this some to me the other day. If you were dictator, and given a blank check for the military and defense budget, how would you go about investing in R&D and existing weapons to make this Supercounterforce viable? What would your strategy be?

[Smitty-48]

Not if we take everybody else out. Not that I'd want to live after a major nuclear exchange anyway. I'd be all deformed, missing my teeth and radiation sick as a mangy dog. Or I'd not die from the radiation and starve to death. I'd rather just get fried instantly.

Thus why I say you should be building a Supercounterforce next generation post-MAD deterrent.

It's both a better deterrent, and should deterrence fail, the Supercounterforce ensures that America wins with comparatively light casualties.

You talked about this some to me the other day. If you were dictator, and given a blank check for the military and defense budget, how would you go about investing in R&D and existing weapons to make this Supercounterforce viable? What would your strategy be?

Just as Speaker says, go big, King Dollah spends them into submission, with Supercounterforce as backup for when they are in their death throes, just in case they do something crazy on the way out.

[brewster]

Everything you consume, every single day, has to be shipped to you. Just because you can ride your bike to the corner store to buy groceries does not relieve you of these costs.

So show the numbers that growing your food but driving everywhere you need to go produces less carbon. Otherwise you're just blowing smoke. And that's putting aside the fact that its a very rare suburban and rural person who actually produces anywhere near a majority of their own food.

More than a city person will grow, we can all be sure of that you faggot. You are more religious than any person I've ever met. You accused fife of being a suicide bomber, but you could give Mohamed Atta a run for his money in your zealotry and extra-ordinary claims you take on faith.

If you keep hanging out with these lowlifes at the soup kitchen, eventually you will be convicted as an accesory after the fact for welfare fraud. You will go to prison. Do you know what happens to climate change activists in prison? They are viewed by both the inmates and guards with utter contempt. Often the inmates will "green house gas" these activist prisoners. That's where 4 black guys hold you down and pry your mouth open and then take turns farting into your throat and nose, pumping you full of methane. I saw that on Nat Geo's Locked Up show, and that is what will happen to you if you keep sanctimoniously complaining about the atmosphere and helping lowlifes steal from the taxpayer with your wife. I'm trying to help you get off this path, and you have repeatedly spit in my face.

You are truly tiresome. No actual fact based argument, so you are reduced to name calling and making weird shit up. Some things actually matter.