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TheReal_ND wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:53 pm Whatever dude. Enjoy your mcmansion
No sign of any yellow vest protests today.
Are they all cucked?

Fuel is about the same price here as it is in the UK now. Always used to be cheaper here.
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There were only 7k protestors last I heard. It's being highjacked by feminists apparently. It's getting sunny. The weather is nice. Who cares?

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Speaking of wave riders, I need to see the ocean again. Does me a lot of good.
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...talking of Richard Coeur de Lion.
Châlus-Chabrol is about an hours drive from my French house.
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This is the castle Richard was besieging in 1199 when he received his fatal crossbow bolt.
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I've only got a couple of days left before I have to head back to England so I am taking tomorrow off from the garden and going to see some sights.
Just around the corner from Châlus-Chabrol is Montbrun castle.
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Mostly 15th century only the rectangular tower remains from the original 12th century stone castle.

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On the way to these two castles is the village of Oradour Sur Glane.
Whilst it does have a Castle...Edit - not a castle after all. This building is the Roman Catholic church that most of the victims died in
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...this is not my reason for wanting to visit.
Oradour sur Glane was the site of a horrific massacre by men of the SS Das Reich Panzer division in WWII.
The tank division was on its way north to reinforce the defenders in Normandy after D-Day.
French resistance fighters had attacked the railway system forcing the division to drive its tanks rather than transport them.
Enraged by the constant harrying of the column the Nazis took revenge on Oradour sur Glane.
They rounded up the population of around 600 and separated the men from the women. One group was herded into a barn while the others were shut into the church.
Then grenades were thrown in and machine guns fired into the burning buildings.
Only one boy survived (I think) and managed to escape after the Germans had left.

After the war the site was not reoccupied and rebuilt, instead it has been left as a memorial to the people who died there.

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Curiously, while searching for images I came across this article in today's Irish Times about an 88-year old former SS soldier facing trial in Germany for his part in the massacre.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/e ... -1.1648429

Most of the men responsible for the massacre died in the Falaise pocket a few weeks later.
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I managed to see 4 castles today.

1st visit was a Cathar castle at Lastour
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2nd was Châlus-Chabrol where Richard Coeur de Lion was fatally wounded
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3rd was Montbrun
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4th was the Chateau de Brie
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Frustratingly all 4 were closed. Despite the internet giving me the opening times.
The tourist season starts on April the 1st so I missed them being open by about 10 days :(
Photos are mine, check that blue sky. Spring has sprung here in France.
Had lovely weather for a week now.
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Today's main visit to Oradour sur Glane went better.
I've known about this event since reading Max Hastings' book ''Das Reich'' about 20 years ago and spotted that it was near Limoges first time I flew out to see Dad 15 years ago. Ever since I have been wanting to visit.

Every house was set on fire by the Nazis after they massacred 642 French citizens.
A warning from history about what the far right is capable of.

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Eerie feeling as I walked around.
I had a look around the adjacent cemetery afterwards.
Many tombs had images of the dead
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The monument was a simple concrete pillar
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In two glass covered coffins lay some of the bones of the martyrs
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Good stuff Monte. Thanks!
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I got up at 5am today to give me plenty of time to get to Dieppe for the return crossing.
It's now 11 and I'm about 3 hours away.
All very good, a couple of hours to spare, was thinking I've got time to stop for lunch somewhere. Then I get a message from the ferry company. Crossing is delayed until 9pm.
Fuckers, I could have got up at a decent hour if I'd known yesterday.

So now I have time to visit a historical site.
Can't decide between a huge 12th century castle.
Bayeux to have a look at the tapestry or the Normandy landing beaches and museum.

I'm leaning towards Bayeux, what say you MHF?
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I didn't realise that Château Guillaume le conquerant was in Falaise.
Spot of luck.
Unlike every other castle I've been to on this trip, it's actually open.
I'm sitting in William's bedroom right now at the top of the tower.
The castle is heavily restored but it is full of great displays and you get an iPad on entry which interacts with each room showing you the interior as it would have been in the 11th century.
Only 8.50 Euros to get in too.
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Well worth a stop.
I'll post my pics later.
Now I've see Will's pad I'd better go and see his bit of embroidery. Only 40 miles away and still got 5 hrs till I need to be in Dieppe.
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Trip to Bayeux proved to be rather expensive.
9.5 Euros was bad enough just to look at the old rag but I got stuck in stationery traffic going around Caen and ended up missing my ferry.
Rather than wait 24hrs for the next sailing from Dieppe I decided to drive the 125 miles to Calais where ferries leave every hour.
Not booking in advance meant I had to pay £100 for a single ticket.

All right, the embroidery was in remarkable condition considering it was nearly a thousand years old and it was great to walk along all 70 metres of it with an audio guide explaining each panel but not worth a hundred quid.

On the bright side, I should get into Dover in plenty of time to visit the castle.
Largest castle in England with a long history I've wanted to visit it for years.
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