What's going on in India?

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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pm
In the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.

This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.

The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.

America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.

The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
Those were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.
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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:11 pm

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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by StCapps » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:22 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pm
And "the people" have never voted for a war.
:lol:
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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:36 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pm
In the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.

This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.

The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.

America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.

The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
Those were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.
Amazing.

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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by Hastur » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:56 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:42 pm
Arc Light wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:35 pm
So, this India/Pakistan thing was just some kind of freshman slap fight?
Things flare up periodically, they're in a constant state of cold war, sometimes it gets a little hotter.
There's a general election for India's parliament coming up in April so we might see some more action before that if the incumbents think it might benefit them.

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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by BjornP » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:22 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pm
In the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.

This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.

The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.

America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.

The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
Those were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... e_generals

Also, in representative democracies, the will of the people is expressed through the actions of their elected leaders. So you already vote for war. And have always done so. And will always do. ;)
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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:16 pm

BjornP wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:22 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pm
In the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.

This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.

The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.

America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.

The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
Those were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... e_generals

Also, in representative democracies, the will of the people is expressed through the actions of their elected leaders. So you already vote for war. And have always done so. And will always do. ;)
I refuse to accept responsibility for the actions of “my representatives” when they are clearly acting in their own interests, and elected through an unverifiable and corrupt system.

I didn’t vote for the vast majority of what they do, and neither did anyone else.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by StCapps » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:20 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:16 pm
BjornP wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:22 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pm


Those were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... e_generals

Also, in representative democracies, the will of the people is expressed through the actions of their elected leaders. So you already vote for war. And have always done so. And will always do. ;)
I refuse to accept responsibility for the actions of “my representatives” when they are clearly acting in their own interests, and elected through an unverifiable and corrupt system.

I didn’t vote for the vast majority of what they do, and neither did anyone else.
Wrong. Plenty of people voted for the actions of "your representatives", you are just projecting your views on the American electorate, and coming to a false conclusion because of it.

Most Americans do not share your views, you are political misfit who is unrepresentative of the views of the silent majority. You may not have voted for it, but plenty of people did, and they are drowning you out.
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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by Ph64 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:46 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pm
In the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.

This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.

The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.

America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.

The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
Arguably the seeds of it were planted in the French civil war when they first started "drafting" the civilian populace into war. Up until that point the general populace really didn't get involved in war unless perhaps their own city/town was under siege (self preservation rather than defending the "nation").

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Re: What's going on in India?

Post by BjornP » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:22 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:16 pm
BjornP wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:22 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pm


Those were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... e_generals

Also, in representative democracies, the will of the people is expressed through the actions of their elected leaders. So you already vote for war. And have always done so. And will always do. ;)
I refuse to accept responsibility for the actions of “my representatives” ...
Your problem in a nutshell. But hey, I'm sure if you only you lived in a direct democratic system, you'd have less corrupt, less selfish and a more transparent democracy... :whistle:
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