Those were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pmIn the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.
This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.
The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.
America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.
The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
What's going on in India?
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Amazing.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pmThose were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pmIn the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.
This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.
The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.
America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.
The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
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There's a general election for India's parliament coming up in April so we might see some more action before that if the incumbents think it might benefit them.
https://thediplomat.com/2019/03/indias- ... announced/
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... e_generalsSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pmThose were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pmIn the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.
This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.
The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.
America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.
The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
Also, in representative democracies, the will of the people is expressed through the actions of their elected leaders. So you already vote for war. And have always done so. And will always do.
Fame is not flattery. Respect is not agreement.
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I refuse to accept responsibility for the actions of “my representatives” when they are clearly acting in their own interests, and elected through an unverifiable and corrupt system.BjornP wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:22 amhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... e_generalsSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pmThose were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pmIn the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.
This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.
The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.
America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.
The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
Also, in representative democracies, the will of the people is expressed through the actions of their elected leaders. So you already vote for war. And have always done so. And will always do.
I didn’t vote for the vast majority of what they do, and neither did anyone else.
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Wrong. Plenty of people voted for the actions of "your representatives", you are just projecting your views on the American electorate, and coming to a false conclusion because of it.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:16 pmI refuse to accept responsibility for the actions of “my representatives” when they are clearly acting in their own interests, and elected through an unverifiable and corrupt system.BjornP wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:22 amhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... e_generalsSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pm
Those were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.
Also, in representative democracies, the will of the people is expressed through the actions of their elected leaders. So you already vote for war. And have always done so. And will always do.
I didn’t vote for the vast majority of what they do, and neither did anyone else.
Most Americans do not share your views, you are political misfit who is unrepresentative of the views of the silent majority. You may not have voted for it, but plenty of people did, and they are drowning you out.
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Arguably the seeds of it were planted in the French civil war when they first started "drafting" the civilian populace into war. Up until that point the general populace really didn't get involved in war unless perhaps their own city/town was under siege (self preservation rather than defending the "nation").Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:05 pmIn the 16th, 17th and 18th centures, wars were not fought amongst the people, professional armies fought wars on tiny fields of battle, the masses were largely unaffected, in fact they would often spectate the battles like sporting events.
This was in fact the case until the American Civil War, where democratized industrial total war was born.
The Greeks invented decisive warfare, which is let's all meet in a field and settle this so we can go back to the farms after.
America invents democratic war, war for a cause which cannot be resolved other than by total annihilation.
The ultimate expression of which, is of course the hydrogen bomb.
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Your problem in a nutshell. But hey, I'm sure if you only you lived in a direct democratic system, you'd have less corrupt, less selfish and a more transparent democracy...SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:16 pmI refuse to accept responsibility for the actions of “my representatives” ...BjornP wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:22 amhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... e_generalsSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:08 pm
Those were not volunteer armies. And "the people" have never voted for a war.
Also, in representative democracies, the will of the people is expressed through the actions of their elected leaders. So you already vote for war. And have always done so. And will always do.
Fame is not flattery. Respect is not agreement.