Random Olympics discussion

[MilSpecs]

I actually wonder if sports injuries are greater amongst women. I know from having women in military Enigineer units, damn few women can hold up physically and work with men. The number of women sent to sick call or the aid station vs men was probably at least a 5:1 ratio and I'm being generous.

Different injuries. Women tend to get knee and ACL injuries due to how the hips differ. Constant pivoting causes female injury more often. Also work injuries aren’t the same thing as sports injuries. Most people don’t tear an ACL or get stress fractures in their feet at work.

[Speaker to Animals]

Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution that prioritized manipulating men to sacrifice for them hasn't done women any favors today. Women are inferior to men at most physical tasks and sports because women never chose to join men in fighting, hunting, and hard labor to any significant degree until probably the medieval period when the average woman was forced to work alongside men in the fields. Even then they didn't have to fight. No selective pressure exists for women to get stronger and tougher.

It's just a weird quirk of human evolution that got us here. It's not any particular woman's fault. But it is what is is. Women just aren't generally as strong or tough as men.

[StCapps]

I actually wonder if sports injuries are greater amongst women. I know from having women in military Enigineer units, damn few women can hold up physically and work with men. The number of women sent to sick call or the aid station vs men was probably at least a 5:1 ratio and I'm being generous.

Different injuries. Women tend to get knee and ACL injuries due to how the hips differ. Constant pivoting causes female injury more often. Also work injuries aren’t the same thing as sports injuries. Most people don’t tear an ACL or get stress fractures in their feet at work.

Men get hurt more often in sports because they are competing against other men who offer more resistance both in practice and competition, which leads to more injuries.

Women aren't as explosive as men, and performing actions with quick bursts of energy takes a greater toll on the body than less strenuous activities. Men can perform those actions more often, and when they do they are more strenuous than when women perform the same actions, and the men get hurt more often as a result.

[Ex-California]

Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution that prioritized manipulating men to sacrifice for them hasn't done women any favors today. Women are inferior to men at most physical tasks and sports because women never chose to join men in fighting, hunting, and hard labor to any significant degree until probably the medieval period when the average woman was forced to work alongside men in the fields. Even then they didn't have to fight. No selective pressure exists for women to get stronger and tougher.

It's just a weird quirk of human evolution that got us here. It's not any particular woman's fault. But it is what is is. Women just aren't generally as strong or tough as men.

Doesn't the natural primate sexual dimorphism contribute to this even before the later evolution you're speaking of?

[Speaker to Animals]

Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution that prioritized manipulating men to sacrifice for them hasn't done women any favors today. Women are inferior to men at most physical tasks and sports because women never chose to join men in fighting, hunting, and hard labor to any significant degree until probably the medieval period when the average woman was forced to work alongside men in the fields. Even then they didn't have to fight. No selective pressure exists for women to get stronger and tougher.

It's just a weird quirk of human evolution that got us here. It's not any particular woman's fault. But it is what is is. Women just aren't generally as strong or tough as men.

Doesn't the natural primate sexual dimorphism contribute to this even before the later evolution you're speaking of?

Well, for starters, at some point the females actually did get involved in outer circle shit. That's why modern homo sapiens have much less sexual dimorphism than archaic homo sapiens. I think the best you can argue is that we are in transition from a tournament-based species in which females do jack shit except trade sex/reproduction for resources in the distant past, and at some point in the distant future a completely pair-bonded species in which men and women are generally equivalent in terms of capabilities.

But culture fucks that up in a big way. Women are still somewhat inferior to us in many respects (especially strength, pain tolerance, endurance, ability to learn physical skills, etc), but they are divided between females who want to step up and own their shit, and females who just want to manipulate and exploit their way through life. LOTS of the females who talk a great game about women empowerment are the latter type. It's just a manipulation game with them.

To actually complete the evolutionary trajectory towards being a true pair-bonded species, step one quite honestly is sending women to war. Women will get culled on the battlefield for weakness. Which means they will not reproduce whereas women who are stronger and can handle shit will survive and reproduce. That's why men are stronger and better than women at so many things. Hundreds of thousands of years of selective pressure made us this way.

[MilSpecs]

I actually wonder if sports injuries are greater amongst women. I know from having women in military Enigineer units, damn few women can hold up physically and work with men. The number of women sent to sick call or the aid station vs men was probably at least a 5:1 ratio and I'm being generous.

Different injuries. Women tend to get knee and ACL injuries due to how the hips differ. Constant pivoting causes female injury more often. Also work injuries aren’t the same thing as sports injuries. Most people don’t tear an ACL or get stress fractures in their feet at work.

Men get hurt more often in sports because they are competing against other men who offer more resistance both in practice and competition, which leads to more injuries.

Women aren't as explosive as men, and performing actions with quick bursts of energy takes a greater toll on the body than less strenuous activities, and since men perform more of those explosive activities in sports, they get hurt more often as a result.

Again, wrong. Women are structurally different and that results in more typical injuries for certain sports in women. That’s why there are so many leg injuries in female basketball players. Women are more susceptible to injury from the motions that are more common in that sport.

Go to a varsity high school basketball game, both sexes, and look at the players’ legs. You’ll see more of the vertical scars on the female players.

And don’t argue with me about any of this. Doctors are clear about sports injuries and the 2 NBA players who played with Holdsclaw are clear that they were equals until the guys hit puberty and got too big for her to play against. Physical differences matter in sports. That’s why I oppose trans women playing against bio women - there’s no way to negate the effects of testosterone on the body from puberty until the testosterone is stopped. They can’t go back and change their bones, or the physical structure of their bodies.

[StCapps]

Different injuries. Women tend to get knee and ACL injuries due to how the hips differ. Constant pivoting causes female injury more often. Also work injuries aren’t the same thing as sports injuries. Most people don’t tear an ACL or get stress fractures in their feet at work.

Men get hurt more often in sports because they are competing against other men who offer more resistance both in practice and competition, which leads to more injuries.

Women aren't as explosive as men, and performing actions with quick bursts of energy takes a greater toll on the body than less strenuous activities, and since men perform more of those explosive activities in sports, they get hurt more often as a result.

Again, wrong. Women are structurally different and that results in more typical injuries for certain sports in women. That’s why there are so many leg injuries in female basketball players. Women are more susceptible to injury from the motions that are more common in that sport.

Go to a varsity high school basketball game, both sexes, and look at the players’ legs. You’ll see more of the vertical scars on the female players.

And don’t argue with me about any of this. Doctors are clear about sports injuries and the 2 NBA players who played with Holdsclaw are clear that they were equals until the guys hit puberty and got too big for her to play against. Physical differences matter in sports. That’s why I oppose trans women playing against bio women - there’s no way to negate the effects of testosterone on the body from puberty until the testosterone is stopped. They can’t go back and change their bones, or the physical structure of their bodies.

I watch more men's sports than you do, while also watching plenty of women play the same sports. Being an MMA fan, you see plenty of both, even just watching the UFC.

Men get hurt more often, that's a thing, you don't watch men's sports, so you wouldn't know. Men get leg injuries all the fucking time in basketball, that's not a women only thing, not even close.

2 NBA players got more skilled after puberty, it wasn't just size and strength that made them better than Holdsclaw. I know you want to hold onto the delusion that the top women in women's sports are as skilled as the men, it's only athleticism that holds them back, but skill holds them back too. Like I say, I watch women's sports all the time, it's plain for anyone to see that the men aren't just more athletic, but a lot more skilled as well.

The NBA owns the WNBA, they are just pumping the tires of some of the best WNBA players so that they will lose less money, either that or they are SJWs who believe women can do everything that men can do, if you factor athleticism out of the equation. Either way, they are full of shit, whether they realize they are full of shit or not, is besides the point.

[Ex-California]

Men get hurt more often in sports because they are competing against other men who offer more resistance both in practice and competition, which leads to more injuries.

Women aren't as explosive as men, and performing actions with quick bursts of energy takes a greater toll on the body than less strenuous activities, and since men perform more of those explosive activities in sports, they get hurt more often as a result.

Again, wrong. Women are structurally different and that results in more typical injuries for certain sports in women. That’s why there are so many leg injuries in female basketball players. Women are more susceptible to injury from the motions that are more common in that sport.

Go to a varsity high school basketball game, both sexes, and look at the players’ legs. You’ll see more of the vertical scars on the female players.

And don’t argue with me about any of this. Doctors are clear about sports injuries and the 2 NBA players who played with Holdsclaw are clear that they were equals until the guys hit puberty and got too big for her to play against. Physical differences matter in sports. That’s why I oppose trans women playing against bio women - there’s no way to negate the effects of testosterone on the body from puberty until the testosterone is stopped. They can’t go back and change their bones, or the physical structure of their bodies.

I watch more men's sports than you do, while also watching plenty of women play the same sports. Being an MMA fan, you see plenty of both, even just watching the UFC.

Men get hurt more often, that's a thing, you don't watch men's sports, so you wouldn't know. Men get leg injuries all the fucking time in basketball, that's not a women only thing, not even close.

2 NBA players got more skilled after puberty, it wasn't just size and strength that made them better than Holdsclaw. I know you want to hold onto the delusion that the top women in women's sports are as skilled as the men, it's only athleticism that holds them back, but skill holds them back too. Like I say, I watch women's sports all the time, it's plain for anyone to see that the men aren't just more athletic, but a lot more skilled as well.

The NBA owns the WNBA, they are just pumping the tires of some of the best WNBA players so that they will lose less money, either that or they are SJWs who believe women can do everything that men can do, if you factor athleticism out of the equation. Either way, they are full of shit, whether they realize they are full of shit or not, is besides the point.

Being an MMA fan has made me watch more women's sports than anything else. I'll watch women fight, but I'm not going to turn on a WNBA game or something else similar. MMA is the best thing for women's athletes besides the Olympics

[StCapps]

Being an MMA fan has made me watch more women's sports than anything else. I'll watch women fight, but I'm not going to turn on a WNBA game or something else similar. MMA is the best thing for women's athletes besides the Olympics

Women are a lot closer to parity in MMA, than they are in most sports, but even there, the top women are nowhere near as skilled as the top men, it's not just a physicality thing, as I'm sure you've observed.

This is why I don't buy Milspecs bullshit, because in MMA women are far closer to parity than women are in basketball, yet she's trying to front like the best women can hang with many a NBA player, yet she doesn't even watch the NBA, so how would she even know enough to judge?

She'd be way better off giving Amanda Nunes praise than some WNBA players to try and make her point about women can be skilled too, but even still, that's not a great point, because all the top men are far more skilled than her.

Hell I'd take a middle the road male UFC flyweight over Amanda Nunes, any day, in a theoretical matchup. Louis Smolka would kick her ass, for instance. Cody Garbrandt might be an idiot, who doesn't have the greatest chin, and seems determined to stand and trade at the worst times, but he'd still destroy Amanda Nunes.

[MilSpecs]

Being an MMA fan has made me watch more women's sports than anything else. I'll watch women fight, but I'm not going to turn on a WNBA game or something else similar. MMA is the best thing for women's athletes besides the Olympics

Women are a lot closer to parity in MMA, than they are in most sports, but even there, the top women are nowhere near as skilled as the top men, it's not just a physicality thing, as I'm sure you've observed.

This is why I don't buy Milspecs bullshit, because in MMA women are far closer to parity than women are in basketball, yet she's trying to front like the best women can hang with many a NBA player, yet she doesn't even watch the NBA, so how would she even know enough to judge?

That’s not what I said and you know it. The size and strength is not equal so the women can’t play with the men.

I don’t watch fights of any kind, including hockey. Too violent. I don’t even watch my pro relative fight and I didn’t watch my brother play hockey in high school.