F35 vs. A10?

[brewster]

Fake News. Rogoway is a click bait rodeo clown.

If you are want to swallow that total and unmitigated bullshit, not my problem. /shrugs

fun how you can dismiss a long, detailed, well-researched article with a flip sentence because....you know better. It is not a very compelling argument. Like self-driving cars, combat drones are coming, the only question is how soon, and whose will they be.

[Smitty-48]

Fake News. Rogoway is a click bait rodeo clown.

If you are want to swallow that total and unmitigated bullshit, not my problem. /shrugs

fun how you can dismiss a long, detailed, well-researched article with a flip sentence because....you know better. It is not a very compelling argument. Like self-driving cars, combat drones are coming, the only question is how soon, and whose will they be.

I simply understand the complexity and cost of fully autonomous and how it is not going to be available anytime soon at a competitive price and thus it is a fallacious canard, moreover I know Rogoway to be a click bait hack. A quick scan of the headings of that article reveal it to be specious and I've also seen it before. It's a common Fake Reform media clown talking point.

I mean, that article is exhibit A as to why Rogoway is a hack. 100% specious fallacy.

Fake News in the classical sense.

[brewster]

I simply understand the complexity and cost of fully autonomous and how it is not going to be available anytime soon at a competitive price

Yet you have loudly touted all the technology to do this that is already on the f35 and that all the pilot needs to do is say 'yes' when the plane wants to destroy something. The author is more credible and consistent.

[Smitty-48]

I simply understand the complexity and cost of fully autonomous and how it is not going to be available anytime soon at a competitive price

Yet you have loudly touted all the technology to do this that is already on the f35 and that all the pilot needs to do is say 'yes' when the plane wants to destroy something. The author is more credible and consistent.

Again, the Super Duper Commander Data Drone does not exist, if you start building it now, it will take 30 years to complete, and it will be much more expensive than F-35, so it is a fallacious canard, invoked by a click bait media hack.

All the things that make F-35 difficult, complex and expensive, will be astronomically more so, when you try to go to full autonomy under combat conditions. Exponentially more code, exponentially more billions upon billions to make it work, exponentially more delayed, and exponentially more complaints from worse than useless fuckwits like Tyler Rogoway.

In the meantime, the British and French would get the contracts instead of America, while America dicked around with the Super Duper Commander Data Drone project to nowhere, the market would go to someone else to replace F-16.

People who think "Drones!" are going to replace everything because drones are cost effective, are simply wrong, because drones are not cheaper and easier, they are much more expensive and difficult, so they don't make sense for every job.

[brewster]

Again, the Super Duper Commander Data Drone does not exist, if you start building it now, it will take 30 years to complete, and it will be much more expensive than F-35, so it is a fallacious canard, invoked by a click bait media hack.

All that is "because I say so". Nothing you say is backed up, and at odds with what is known about the US X45 & X47 drone programs even 15 years ago. You'd know that if you read the article.

[Smitty-48]

X-47B is vaporware, it's a technology demonstrator, it doesn't do what F-35 does, not even close.

[Smitty-48]

You'd know that if you read the article.

I know that the Super Duper Commander Data Drone to replace F-35 doesn't exist, and Tyler Rogoway doesn't have one in his pocket, and X-47B was rejected by the Navy as being "meh" at best, too expensive for too little capability.

[Speaker to Animals]

The guy who never worked on a jet in his life, who is not even an American, simply "knows" no secret drone project exists.

You should use your "knowing" superpower to also learn what angle of attack means.

[Smitty-48]

F-35 is here to stay, nothing will stop it now, suck it, Tyler Rogoway.

Secret drones that only you know about?

More power to them, but they're not going to replace the F-35 program for the foreseeable future, so they are moot.

Can't replace the aging inventory with fantasy "Secret!" weapons, can't sell them to allies neither, nor can I invest in the Secret Drone Company of America, so pretty much irrelevant to the point.

[Smitty-48]

Anyways, getting back to real world rather than fantasy, the much more economical option is Optionally Manned, wherein you can fly an F-35 without the pilot in certain situations, which is an inevitable upgrade in the spiral.

Thing is tho, the are political and legal dynamics in play which makes me suspect that it would be a feature which was very rarely used, because I think it would only be rarely, wherein the NCA would want to fly without the legal representative of the CinC on board, for any sort of complex missions.

The fighter pilot is an officer for a reason, he can start wars, handing that job to the algorithm, I don't see being done very often.

Optionally Manned will more likely be used as a safety mechanism in case the pilot is disabled, but actually sending into contested space where it could start World War Three if it makes the wrong decision, I don't see the government nor the public being comfortable with that as a CONOPs.