The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:54 pm

We sell f15's still? Last I saw the only people using them are using jig knock offs.

We sell f-35 like hot cakes though.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:57 pm

brewster wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:54 pm
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Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:25 pm
Redpill me on the f32. This thing looks like a shuttle. When are we going to have space capable aeros?
Couldn't do the job.
I seem to recall from a documentary on the contest it wasn't that cut and dried. But in the end the brass liked the more traditional looking craft.

I think this is it
Fake news. The F-32 was a lame duck, it never worked, it never even came close to working.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:57 pm

Well I think Israel is producing their own. I seem to recall something about some third world country using f15 jig knock offs. It's like an AK. Every second rate country in the world makes one.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:59 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:54 pm
We sell f15's still? Last I saw the only people using them are using jig knock offs.

We sell f-35 like hot cakes though.
Beyond that, it will totally corner the market, eventually everybody will be flying the F-35, because nothing else will be in production, even the French will buy F-35 in the end, they will buy F-35C because Rafale ain't stealth and it never will be. They will go from Rafale with Mirage 2000, to F-35C with Rafale.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:02 pm

IDF wants new F-15 models. They love them their F-15.

The F-35 is a kind of economic racket. It's something akin to the old East India Co. It's more about locking client states into this huge defense contracting system. Lockmart bribes politicians to sign off on this shit, and then they sweeten the deal by moving a little bit of sub-contracting work to various states and nations signing on. But this means everybody is locked in.

Ted Cruz, the massive faggot that he is, does everything possible to perpetuate the biggest military boondoggle in American history because he wants those subcontracting jobs in Texas. The brass in the Pentagon keep supporting it because Lockmart secures them high-paying jobs in the defense industry or in think tanks after they retire.

The corruption of this thing is so massive, I am really shocked the average American is not super pissed about it. But I think most Americans fail to understand what is going on our how this works. Most people just don't know any better. They see what they think looks cool in some photograph, but they don't understand why it sucks.

Then you have people like Smitty who buy the stock and become salesmen for shit they don't understand. He's in here spouting all this nonsense when he's never opened the panel of a fighter in his entire life. He's never worked on them. Doesn't know how they work. Doesn't know anything about it other than what Lockmart marketing puts out there.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:04 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:54 pm
We sell f15's still? Last I saw the only people using them are using jig knock offs.

We sell f-35 like hot cakes though.
Uh.. yeah. Boeing has been selling them everywhere. There are F-15 models for several nations. Most of them are variants of the F-15E, but they have model shreds like SA for Saudi Arabia, and J for Japan.

The F-15 is the most successful military aircraft in history.

By the by.. An F-15 can target and shoot down an F-35. We've been able to do it since the 90s. You don't need radar to shoot people down. LOL. I wonder if Lockmart marketing mentions that.. :whistle:
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:05 pm

Only five countries fly F-15 and only a handful each, F-35 will block out the sky, every NATO and NNMA country will buy F-35 in the end.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:07 pm

The fuck out of here

"Muh made in America is more important. We need USDM!"

"OMG don't make that! Stop it!"

The f-35 is clearly a marketable item and I doubt everyone is drinking some kind of "East India Empire" koolaid (wtf?)

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:07 pm

When the Super Hornet production run is done, Boeing in St. Louis is done, Boeing will be out of the fighter business very soon. There is nowhere near enough F-15 customers to keep it open.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:09 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:07 pm
The fuck out of here

"Muh made in America is more important. We need USDM!"

"OMG don't make that! Stop it!"

The f-35 is clearly a marketable item and I doubt everyone is drinking some kind of "East India Empire" koolaid (wtf?)
I am the only person here who knows anything about how these aircraft work. Most of us in my community are shocked that this has gone on for so long.

You can believe MIC marketing or you can believe the people who actually serve in fighter squadrons. It's up to you. Smitty doesn't know what the fuck he is even talking about. He uses a lot of marketing acronyms used only in brochures and to sell shit to clueless boomer congressmen. There are serious problems with the F-35. Seriously, people should be in prison for this.