Jordan Peterson Goes in on Trudeau, Spitting Fire

[Smitty-48]

Lindbergh was no Armstrong. Armstrong was like Cincinnatus, he did the job, then he went back to Ohio to live a quiet life, never sought fame, never sought fortune, never wanted to be a politician.

So your thoughts are Lindbergh wasn't heroic?

I am a Hanoverian, he was a Nazi sympathizer, so I am not a fan.

[DBTrek]

Lindbergh was no Armstrong. Armstrong was like Cincinnatus, he did the job, then he went back to Ohio to live a quiet life, never sought fame, never sought fortune, never wanted to be a politician.

That he did.
He is a standout, especially in today's social media-driven, look-at-me, attention whore culture of nobodies. The man was the first human to walk on a celestial object that wasn't Earth, and he didn't make any kind of deal out of it.
Fucking boss.

A short snippet from the badass link that some of you may have missed, this one always makes me smile:

You had to try really hard to throw something at Neil Armstrong that would generate any kind of emotional response. I don't really remember where I saw this, but my favorite Neil Armstrong story goes like this: One morning, Buzz Aldrin or Michael Collins (I can't remember which) came into the office to get started on work. Neil was sitting at his desk, working on some paperwork, and just looked up for a second to say "good morning" before going back to his writing. Buzz/Michael went to the NASA shift lead to ask what was going on that day, and was told by the NASA techs that the missions were scrapped today because about an hour ago Neil Armstrong was running a test flight on the Lunar Landing Module when it's equipment failed and it plummeted to the earth and exploded in a giant fireball. Neil had almost died, but had somehow managed to eject a mere 200 feet from the ground and parachuted to safety with only minor injuries. When Buzz/Michael protested that he'd just seen Neil two seconds ago, the NASA guy was like, "Oh, yeah… he's filling out the after-mission report."

Respect.

[GloryofGreece]

Lindbergh was no Armstrong. Armstrong was like Cincinnatus, he did the job, then he went back to Ohio to live a quiet life, never sought fame, never sought fortune, never wanted to be a politician.

So your thoughts are Lindbergh wasn't heroic?

I am a Hanoverian, he was a Nazi sympathizer, so I am not a fan.

Gotcha. But at the end of the day wouldn't it be better if Anglo/Saxons could get a long to fight the real enemies?Or even better if Europe all would put their shit to rest an realize a Englishman has more in common with a German than an Arab or a Jew or a Chinaman?

[Smitty-48]

Armstrong seem to sense his importance, as in the importance of the first human being to set foot on another body in space for humanity writ large, to not do anything to embarrass America by acting like a jackass.

[TheReal_ND]

I'm still trying to figure Europeans out. On some levels a Norwegian, might view a German just as disdainfully as a jew or an Arab. It makes no sense to me but Americans have a completely distorted ethnic reality.

[Smitty-48]

So your thoughts are Lindbergh wasn't heroic?

I am a Hanoverian, he was a Nazi sympathizer, so I am not a fan.

Gotcha. But at the end of the day wouldn't it be better if Anglo/Saxons could get a long to fight the real enemies?Or even better if Europe all would put their shit to rest an realize a Englishman has more in common with a German than an Arab or a Jew or a Chinaman?

Has nothing to do with that, the National Socialists were still socialists and they were totalitarian about it, as a classically liberal limited government conservative, Nazism is an anathema to me, whatever their justifications.

[GloryofGreece]

I'm still trying to figure Europeans out. On some levels a Norwegian, might view a German just as disdainfully as a jew or an Arab. It makes no sense to me but Americans have a completely distorted ethnic reality.

Unpack all this please.

[TheReal_ND]

I'm still trying to figure Europeans out. On some levels a Norwegian, might view a German just as disdainfully as a jew or an Arab. It makes no sense to me but Americans have a completely distorted ethnic reality.

Unpack all this please.

What's there to unpack? The part about Americans or the part about Europeans? What I said about Europeans is pretty straightforward. Idk how deep it goes in modern times, like how Southerners still talk shit about Yankees and hate them with a passion but on some level everyone is aware it's half jest and more of a coping mechanism for the erosion of what little cultural differences there still are in America. The part about Americans, hell, everyone knows our ethnicities have been wiped out. We don't have much sense of them other than the social construct that is being 'white.' That doesn't really mean anything. It serves as an identity in America but it doesn't serve one well. As a race, in general, I still think it's useful to use it as a mechanism for drawing distinctions but really Western Society is more accurate. As whites are replaced in Western Society, is it still accurate though? No. White will out of necessity have to remain the pitiful extent of ethnic identity we Americans will still have and I hope it never comes to that for Europeans. It probably wont, at least in eastern Europe for a long time.

[GloryofGreece]

I'm still trying to figure Europeans out. On some levels a Norwegian, might view a German just as disdainfully as a jew or an Arab. It makes no sense to me but Americans have a completely distorted ethnic reality.

Unpack all this please.

What's there to unpack? The part about Americans or the part about Europeans? What I said about Europeans is pretty straightforward. Idk how deep it goes in modern times, like how Southerners still talk shit about Yankees and hate them with a passion but on some level everyone is aware it's half jest and more of a coping mechanism for the erosion of what little cultural differences there still are in America. The part about Americans, hell, everyone knows our ethnicities have been wiped out. We don't have much sense of them other than the social construct that is being 'white.' That doesn't really mean anything. It serves as an identity in America but it doesn't serve one well. As a race, in general, I still think it's useful to use it as a mechanism for drawing distinctions but really Western Society is more accurate. As whites are replaced in Western Society, is it still accurate though? No. White will out of necessity have to remain the pitiful extent of ethnic identity we Americans will still have and I hope it never comes to that for Europeans. It probably wont, at least in eastern Europe for a long time.

OK I see what your saying but you think Norwegians don't see German folk like themselves at least more than Arabs and Jews?

[DBTrek]

Armstrong seem to sense his importance, as in the importance of the first human being to set foot on another body in space for humanity writ large, to not do anything to embarrass America by acting like a jackass.

That he did.
We need more like him.

To Neil.