Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[Speaker to Animals]

You think threats to violently overthrow a democratically elected government and murder the President is hilarious?

Sounding more and more like a terrorist organisation within the yellow vest movement is subverting the protest for their own cause.

You would throw a shit fit if this was Antifa in the US making these claims.

Do you even listen to yourself?

1) You laughed off a very real attempted coup against the elected government of the United States because you were programmed to hate Trump.

2) If they attack civilians they are terror organizations. If they attack the government, they are revolutionaries.

3) Antifa DOES say shit like that!

1) Link? I'm pretty sure I did no such thing.
2) Bollocks. The IRA attacked the government, only their supporters would describe them as anything other than terrorists.
3) You lose your shit when they do.

1) Whatever dude.
2) The IRA also attacked civilians in terror attacks. That's what made them terrorists.
3) Link? LOL

[Montegriffo]

Terrorism is the unlawful use of violence in the pursuit of political aims.
No one except IRA supporters called the Brighton bombing where they tried to kill Thatcher anything other than terrorism.
Terrorism is not exclusively attacking civilians.

[Speaker to Animals]

Uh.. no..

Terrorism is "the systematic use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective."

https://www.britannica.com/topic/terrorism


Just starting a revolution is not "terrorism". If you start attacking civilians to intimidate them into not supporting the government.. then you'd be engaging in terrorism.

[Speaker to Animals]

Liberals are hilarious when they use the word terrorism.

Jimmy Stewart: war criminal terrorist

Nelson Mandela: humanitarian prisoner of conscience.


LOL

[Montegriffo]

Terrorism is "the systematic use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective."

Sums up the yellowshirts perfectly.
Many French citizens are avoiding city centres at the weekend for fear of getting caught up in the violence.
The movement is using violent protests to achieve its aim of overthrowing the government and is now claiming they have a paramilitary force ready to murder Macron.
They have attacked private property and 10 members of the public have now died as a result of their protests.

[Speaker to Animals]

Terrorism is "the systematic use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective."

Sums up the yellowshirts perfectly.
Many French citizens are avoiding city centres at the weekend for fear of getting caught up in the violence.
The movement is using violent protests to achieve its aim of overthrowing the government and is now claiming they have a paramilitary force ready to murder Macron.
They have attacked private property and 10 members of the public have now died as a result of their protests.

No. Not really. Unless you are Macron and his flunkies.

[Montegriffo]

Liberals are hilarious when they use the word terrorism.

Jimmy Stewart: war criminal terrorist

Nelson Mandela: humanitarian prisoner of conscience.


LOL

I've never called Jimmy Stewart a terrorist or a war criminal.
I have called Mandela one though, Nelson Mandela was the head of the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns.
He became a political leader on release from prison as did Gerry Adams.

[Speaker to Animals]

Amazing.

[Otern]

Terrorism is the unlawful use of violence in the pursuit of political aims.
No one except IRA supporters called the Brighton bombing where they tried to kill Thatcher anything other than terrorism.
Terrorism is not exclusively attacking civilians.

Have to disagree here.
Let's start with "unlawful use of violence". This means every rebel is a terrorist. 20 july plotters would be considered terrorists. Considering international law, the invasion of Iraq could be called terrorism, as would the NATO actions in Kosovo against the Serbs. Subjectively it would be true, but not objectively.

As for the IRA question, it's even more complicated. I wouldn't call IRA pure terrorists. Sure, they did have terrorist actions. But so did the RUC. And the RUC did get support from the state. The IRA weren't the worst terrorists at the end of the Troubles.

Basically, terrorism is more of a propaganda term, than a technical term. Using "terrorism" as a contemporary definition of a group or an activity doesn't really work that well, because we've yet to see how it ends. I think ISIS will still be seen as a terrorist group in the future, but a lot of other groups considered "terrorists", will not be deemed so in the future. Nelson Mandela was technically a terrorist, but no mainstream politician will call him that today, as it would be political suicide.

[Speaker to Animals]

Mandela was a straight-up terrorist. That the leftists call him a humanitarian and then call the Yellow Jacket protesters terrorists tells you all you need to know about the left.