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Re: Fake News

Post by pineapplemike » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:52 pm

conversations about truth are going to get a lot more fun in the future when those "deep-fake" videos go mainstream

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Re: Fake News

Post by heydaralon » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:00 pm

We are in the process of being able to merge actor's/actress' heads onto porn vids+audio editing. In the future, we will probably not be able to tell the difference between real and fake recordings. Our power to gain info will be dilluted and made useless by this new tech. Like a PKD book. Just wait. Always remember. Daralon predicted this...
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Re: Fake News

Post by jediuser598 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:08 pm

Ph64 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:31 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:07 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:06 pm


To begin with, you are playing with symbology. There is utility in symbolic logic, obviously, but it is Idealism to confuse that with objective truth itself.
Do you believe that I believe that A=A. (this is the law of identity, not the law of non-contradiction)

Yes or no?
What is the answer to this division problem: 5/0=?
How did you achieve that answer?

If there are an infinite number of positive even integers (2,4,6,8,etc), then it should follow that there are twice as many positive integers (1,2,3,4,etc). What is twice infinity?
He's asserting with 100% certainty that liberals cannot believe that A=A. Liberals, by their very nature, cannot believe in the law of identity, the law of contradiction and the law of the excluded middle. Liberals, by their very nature can't believe in objective truth. He knows this with 100% certainty. (because that's the bar we set for his assertions)

There certainly are some liberals who don't believe in objective truth, but he's asserting it's essential to liberalism that you cannot believe in objective truth.

Am I wrong, DSL?
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Re: Fake News

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:11 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:00 pm
We are in the process of being able to merge actor's/actress' heads onto porn vids+audio editing. In the future, we will probably not be able to tell the difference between real and fake recordings. Our power to gain info will be dilluted and made useless by this new tech. Like a PKD book. Just wait. Always remember. Daralon predicted this...
It is actually much worse than that. The liberal man is a modern sophist. His objective is to pollute language in order to abuse power. His animosity towards truth today is limited to punishing those who correctly claim that a so-called trans-woman is a disfigured and heavily disguised man.Their dream, transhumanism, will allow them to fuck with truth itself. At some point genetic manipulation will be possible. Adding and removing chromosomes will be possible. Thus they can be anything they want. The man who wants to become a woman can do so, and so to can the man who wants to become a gay pony do so. Imagine the horror when these people can simply alter truth to fit their degenerate whims..

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Re: Fake News

Post by jediuser598 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:16 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:11 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:00 pm
We are in the process of being able to merge actor's/actress' heads onto porn vids+audio editing. In the future, we will probably not be able to tell the difference between real and fake recordings. Our power to gain info will be dilluted and made useless by this new tech. Like a PKD book. Just wait. Always remember. Daralon predicted this...
It is actually much worse than that. The liberal man is a modern sophist. His objective is to pollute language in order to abuse power. His animosity towards truth today is limited to punishing those who correctly claim that a so-called trans-woman is a disfigured and heavily disguised man.Their dream, transhumanism, will allow them to fuck with truth itself. At some point genetic manipulation will be possible. Adding and removing chromosomes will be possible. Thus they can be anything they want. The man who wants to become a woman can do so, and so to can the man who wants to become a gay pony do so. Imagine the horror when these people can simply alter truth to fit their degenerate whims..
You voted for Trump.

Your objection to being post-truth isn't borne out by your voting record.
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One doth not stroke me, nor the other strike.
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Re: Fake News

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:17 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:08 pm
Ph64 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:31 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:07 pm


Do you believe that I believe that A=A. (this is the law of identity, not the law of non-contradiction)

Yes or no?
What is the answer to this division problem: 5/0=?
How did you achieve that answer?

If there are an infinite number of positive even integers (2,4,6,8,etc), then it should follow that there are twice as many positive integers (1,2,3,4,etc). What is twice infinity?
He's asserting with 100% certainty that liberals cannot believe that A=A. Liberals, by their very nature, cannot believe in the law of identity, the law of contradiction and the law of the excluded middle. Liberals, by their very nature can't believe in objective truth. He knows this with 100% certainty. (because that's the bar we set for his assertions)

There certainly are some liberals who don't believe in objective truth, but he's asserting it's essential to liberalism that you cannot believe in objective truth.

Am I wrong, DSL?

yes. You are proving my point that liberals are inherently dishonest by obviously lying about what I posted.

My argument was that liberals themselves often enough express disbelief in the principle of noncontradiction to list numerous examples.

I gave you the example of how any facts are used to justify the theory that humans are causing the Earth to heat up.

Another example are the many contradictions of feminists. Anything is used to attempt to prove women are disadvantaged. Men take jobs that require long hours to support their families. Liberals claim this as evidence that women are employment discriminated against. But if the genders were reversed, liberals would argue women are still disadvantaged as men force them to work longer hours and live off their higher earnings like leeches.


None of you actually believe A=A in all cases. One can easily demonstrate this fact as I have done here.

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Re: Fake News

Post by heydaralon » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:23 pm

I miss Hwen. At least his trisomy brought color and fun to this forum. Jedi's pseudo intellectual queries make the DMV seem entertaining...
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Re: Fake News

Post by jediuser598 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:27 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:23 pm
I miss Hwen. At least his trisomy brought color and fun to this forum. Jedi's pseudo intellectual queries make the DMV seem entertaining...
Pseudo-intellectual because you can't keep up.

He just stated: "None of you actually believe A=A in all cases" which he believes with 100% certainty. That means his grasp on the truth is flawed at a very basic level, thus his criticism of the media is from a person who doesn't even know what 100% certainty even means.
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Re: Fake News

Post by heydaralon » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:30 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:27 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:23 pm
I miss Hwen. At least his trisomy brought color and fun to this forum. Jedi's pseudo intellectual queries make the DMV seem entertaining...
Pseudo-intellectual because you can't keep up.

He just stated: "None of you actually believe A=A in all cases" which he believes with 100% certainty. That means his grasp on the truth is flawed at a very basic level, thus his criticism of the media is from a person who doesn't even know what 100% certainty even means.
Did you read that in Des Cartes' Dis Cours?
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Re: Fake News

Post by pineapplemike » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:30 pm

DSL speaks to animals in massive generalities, what else is new? just roll with the punches. yeah dude, all liberals deny truth. word