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Re: MartyrMade

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:03 pm

I'll check out the Aztecs one because I find them interesting as well. I knew he was doing them I've just been hesitant to give him a chance for some reason. Based on what I'm hearing he has kind of a Dan vibe pop history schtick going on and I've already been burned once. I like Darryl because he isn't a massive flaming homo so his pop history takes are interesting to me. I think he cucks on race a little. Kind of like a Jarred Diamond GG&S vibe from him when he talks about how barbaric humans are. But whatever. It's not that I mind if he is implying we are all barbaric and were in the past, I just feel like he is leaving out important racial dynamics in some of his takes.
DrYouth wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:53 pm
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Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:37 pm
I can't into bollelli. I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger on him. Sell me on bollelli.
What can I say...
My favorite Bolleli was his series on Cortez and the Aztecs.... this is one of my favorite history series of all time.
If you don't like that series - I can't help you or sell you on this guy... just forget it.
Joan of Arc was my next favorite.
Slave Wars were epic.
Native American stuff is only interesting if you are into native americans...
Teddy Roosevelt was cool cause he was pretty badass.
Caravaggio - same reason - even Jack Johnson... Bolleli likes badass crazy dudes and the pirate chick episode was kind of similar... plus fire boats.
Gladiators was also very cool...
47 Ronin was ok.
You can take a pass on the Italian mafia episodes... I didn't like those...

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Re: MartyrMade

Post by DrYouth » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:07 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:03 pm
I'll check out the Aztecs one because I find them interesting as well.
You won't regret it...
Cortez was one cocky badass... It's the craziest most successful ballsy episode in history...
Don't miss it.
Then tell me what you think.
Deep down tho, I still thirst to kill you and eat you. Ultra Chimp can't help it.. - Smitty

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Re: MartyrMade

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:13 pm

I have to admit there is just something so admirable about a terrible guy like that that can just be like "yeah nah were not doing that, I'm just gonna go conquer this giant country and call it my personal property"

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Re: MartyrMade

Post by heydaralon » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:15 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:02 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:53 pm
One episode per year covering extremely popular topics filled with secondary sources that are easy to research does not a career make.
I guess it does if you own prime podcasting real estate.
He got out there early and struck a claim on gold... before anyone else got there.
He worked hard for a few prime years and got a jackpot of followers... and now he can rest on his laurels.

This is how it works folks!
Innovate... bust a hump at the right time and in the right place....
And then you can rest on your laurels and live the good life.

I mean I'm jealous too... but then I didn't jump on that opportunity so I don't resent him for doing so...

I think being mad at Carlin is just entitlement and resentment... it's also probably bad for your health...

So cut it out... ;)

P.S. Dan jumped the shark politically... this is true.
I'm jealous that Dan probably makes close to if not more than 100k per year to make podcasts (on anything he wants), and chooses not to make them, or to make boring no-effort low hanging fruit shows. His persian series was pretty bad dude. The last good one he did was the execution/torture one. He has a limited range of topics to draw from. We either get: What if 2 wildly different cultures clashed? Imagine living in X country/society? Historical arsonist etc. The novelty of these ideas has worn off. If he got back to his roots, like Death Throes, he would earn my respect again.

Dan didn't really reinvent the wheel politically. There were many, many people, even 10-15 years ago who were discussing the idea of a third party or a Ross Perot type candidate. Really, all Dan did was stay in the shallows of addressing the problem and not providing any innovative analysis or viable solutions. Think about it: his Common Sense boiled down to, there are two parties and both are corrupt. We have an attack on the fourth amendment. We need to figure out a way to get money out of politics. We are fighting in conflicts that we shouldn't be fighting in, and we should decrease our foreign military activity. Those are all problems, and concerns that are valid, but it is not super martian to come to those conclusions. He never really came up with a way to solve them either. And his shutting down his show due to the Trump victory pretty much nullified any political points he made. I honestly look at Dan's reddit fans and his cagey non answers to politics today and view his insight as a joke. It makes me sad.
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Re: MartyrMade

Post by heydaralon » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:16 pm

PS I read some of Ken Wilbur's stuff, and he strikes me as a kind of New Age bullshit artist. No diss at you, but I'm not terribly impressed by him.
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Re: MartyrMade

Post by GloryofGreece » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:17 pm

heydaralon wrote:
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Luther had a very extreme scatological obsession. I think roughly translated he also told the devil to kiss his asshole or something. I'm not trolling btw.
Yea I remember hearing he wrote a lot on the shitter. To be fair I read a lot in the bathroom and listen to podcast as well while taking baths so... I think old Luther wanted to actually reform the Church like he mostly stated, but eventually politics and self preservation caught up with him. Also, maybe the practical effects were bearing fruition and he didn't like the Peasant Revolts...
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Re: MartyrMade

Post by DrYouth » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:20 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:16 pm
PS I read some of Ken Wilbur's stuff, and he strikes me as a kind of New Age bullshit artist. No diss at you, but I'm not terribly impressed by him.
It's all good... no diss taken.
He helped me understand the problem with postmodernism...
And how it went terribly terribly wrong.
Then he helped me understand how it can get better... I could never really see the path forward before...
So basically I have more hope... this is helpful.
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Re: MartyrMade

Post by heydaralon » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:23 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:20 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:16 pm
PS I read some of Ken Wilbur's stuff, and he strikes me as a kind of New Age bullshit artist. No diss at you, but I'm not terribly impressed by him.
It's all good... no diss taken.
He helped me understand the problem with postmodernism...
And how it went terribly terribly wrong.
Then he helped me understand how it can get better... I could never really see the path forward before...
So basically I have more hope... this is helpful.
His section on that was among the best of his analysis. It seems to me like he makes the same mistake all these supposed objective cultural/scientific/positivist type guys make and attempts to add human meaning and values to inhuman sciences and data. Like how he tried to use evolution to show that human society is advancing toward a goal. I've got some Stalinists and Nazis and some fellows named Fukuyama and Spencer I'd like him to meet.
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Re: MartyrMade

Post by DrYouth » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:25 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:13 pm
I have to admit there is just something so admirable about a terrible guy like that that can just be like "yeah nah were not doing that, I'm just gonna go conquer this giant country and call it my personal property"
Yes...
Crazy ass brave, cocky, incredibly skilled at the political game...
Saw weakness and simply took the opening before him.
The Aztecs were corrupt, fat cannibals and there is no real reason to cry about their loss...

The average indigenous person, like poor shmucks everywhere suffered a lot... and smallpox... smallpox was bad...

But Cortez was an awesome force of nature.
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Re: MartyrMade

Post by DrYouth » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:27 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:23 pm
and some fellows named Fukuyama
I like Fukuyama...
The "end of history" remark has been totally taken out of context.
His "Origin of Political Order" series is top shelf.
Deep down tho, I still thirst to kill you and eat you. Ultra Chimp can't help it.. - Smitty