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Re: Socialism

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:36 pm

brewster wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:59 am
The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:01 am
Government should only get involved in emergency situations, nothing more, nothing less.
So no police forces, regulators, or even border protection involved in preventing emergencies whatsoever, eh? That's pretty hardcore even for a Libertarian.
What part of emergency situations do you not understand?

Police are called in emergency situations, the same with the border, it’s a stuation that can be concidered an emergency.
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Re: Socialism

Post by brewster » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:02 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:36 pm
brewster wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:59 am
The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:01 am
Government should only get involved in emergency situations, nothing more, nothing less.
So no police forces, regulators, or even border protection involved in preventing emergencies whatsoever, eh? That's pretty hardcore even for a Libertarian.
What part of emergency situations do you not understand?

Police are called in emergency situations, the same with the border, it’s a stuation that can be concidered an emergency.
Yes, that's what I understood you to say: no preventing emergencies, just responding to them. Of course in some regimes that leads to a permanent state of emergency.....
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Re: Socialism

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:13 pm

brewster wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:02 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:36 pm
brewster wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:59 am

So no police forces, regulators, or even border protection involved in preventing emergencies whatsoever, eh? That's pretty hardcore even for a Libertarian.
What part of emergency situations do you not understand?

Police are called in emergency situations, the same with the border, it’s a stuation that can be concidered an emergency.
Yes, that's what I understood you to say: no preventing emergencies, just responding to them. Of course in some regimes that leads to a permanent state of emergency.....
You really don’t understand how police work do you?

Police are a reactionary force, so is the fire department.

Education, is what makes people safe, knowledge is what makes people safe, common sense is what keeps people safe.

Sacrifice one of those three things and you create a situation in where the police or fire department will need to be called.

If you sacrifice one of those three things, you sacrifice the ability of provention.

You can disagree with me all you want, but the safest people to be around are the once that are educated and practice common sense.
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Re: Socialism

Post by brewster » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:46 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:13 pm
Police are a reactionary force, so is the fire department.
Wow, this is awesome! So, the police should only respond to crimes, never patrol, or do any crime prevention. The FD should respond to fires, but never inspect structures to see if they're dangerous, and of course we should have no ridiculous bureaucracy enforcing building codes to prevent fires. If I get your drift, the military should only respond to active threats, never garrison as a preventative or study possible enemies, and of course we don't need a State Dept bureaucracy to try and prevent wars, an approach recently put into action by Secretary Tillerson firing much of the Dept. And of course there would be no one to even respond to corporate attacks on workers or the environment, never mind prevent them. A perfect Libertarian world!

BTW, regarding education: Britain, France and Germany were basically the most educated nations on earth in the early 20th century, that didn't stop them from violence on a massive scale, using that education to create ever greater weapons of mass destruction. Good luck legislating common sense. See my 1st paragraph for proof.
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Re: Socialism

Post by BjornP » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:48 am

TC, since this is not the first time you've used this word, do me the small favor and look up "reactionary" in a dictionary. Hint: It doesn't mean "reacting to something".
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Re: Socialism

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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:06 am

BjornP wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:48 am
TC, since this is not the first time you've used this word, do me the small favor and look up "reactionary" in a dictionary. Hint: It doesn't mean "reacting to something".
I think the word he intends is reactive.

The word reactionary is misused all the fucking time, deliberately in most cases, so I am way beyond giving a shit about it. Usually it is used as a pejorative by progressives/marxists/globalists to anybody that dissents from their future utopia. Which, in the case of actual reactionaries is still correct, but not everybody that disagrees with them is a "reactionary" (very few, really).

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Re: Socialism

Post by The Conservative » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:27 am

brewster wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:46 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:13 pm
Police are a reactionary force, so is the fire department.
Wow, this is awesome! So, the police should only respond to crimes, never patrol, or do any crime prevention. The FD should respond to fires, but never inspect structures to see if they're dangerous, and of course we should have no ridiculous bureaucracy enforcing building codes to prevent fires. If I get your drift, the military should only respond to active threats, never garrison as a preventative or study possible enemies, and of course we don't need a State Dept bureaucracy to try and prevent wars, an approach recently put into action by Secretary Tillerson firing much of the Dept. And of course there would be no one to even respond to corporate attacks on workers or the environment, never mind prevent them. A perfect Libertarian world!

BTW, regarding education: Britain, France and Germany were basically the most educated nations on earth in the early 20th century, that didn't stop them from violence on a massive scale, using that education to create ever greater weapons of mass destruction. Good luck legislating common sense. See my 1st paragraph for proof.
Police are always reacting, they never do something before it happens, even when they arrest someone, they need to catch someone in the act of doing something, so in this case I am correct, the police are a force that reacts to the actions of violence.

As for England and Britan being the most educated, did you read what I stated, you take one of the three points out... I don't know, it seems to me that people here are missing a few of those points... because it is pretty obvious what I was explaining...
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Re: Socialism

Post by The Conservative » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 am

BjornP wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:48 am
TC, since this is not the first time you've used this word, do me the small favor and look up "reactionary" in a dictionary. Hint: It doesn't mean "reacting to something".
And do me a small favor and ignore the misuse of the word, because if you can't figure out what I am saying then you need to stop being a Grammar/Spelling Nazi.
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