How is currency based off something "real"? Its always imaginary to one degree or another, no?Fife wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:36 amWhatever comes after Federal Reserve Notes.
Nobody knows what that will be, and neither do I; except I'm pretty sure is will be real and not fiat issued by some gang. This is what concerns me most about crypto, but I don't know shit about the tech, so what good is my take on that?
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Some food has done down, but with inflation and using food as a fuel source, not all have gone down equally. Some have increased due to costs of food/fuel dependencies.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:14 am??? My iPhone, car, TV, even my lawnmower deliver much more value for my dollars. Even staples like food have gone down in price: selection, availability, quality are well worth it.Zlaxer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:54 amMartin Hash wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:29 pm
Yes, it’s value is completely unaffected by the number in existence AS PROVEN BY MONEY CREATED THROUGH DEBT.
Then why is real purchasing power declining?
Housing is an example of consumption > production.
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GloryofGreece wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:39 amHow is currency based off something "real"? Its always imaginary to one degree or another, no?Fife wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:36 amWhatever comes after Federal Reserve Notes.
Nobody knows what that will be, and neither do I; except I'm pretty sure is will be real and not fiat issued by some gang. This is what concerns me most about crypto, but I don't know shit about the tech, so what good is my take on that?
Not currency -- money. Not the same thing.
Check out this quick intro from Rothbard:
https://mises.org/wire/rothbard-essenti ... -inflation
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What do you think happens when the Fed prints billions of dollars and hands it all over to their bankster friends? Progressive utopia?
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Real money comes naturally out of a barter system as some universally valued good that becomes a stand-in for all trades.GloryofGreece wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:39 amHow is currency based off something "real"? Its always imaginary to one degree or another, no?Fife wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:36 amWhatever comes after Federal Reserve Notes.
Nobody knows what that will be, and neither do I; except I'm pretty sure is will be real and not fiat issued by some gang. This is what concerns me most about crypto, but I don't know shit about the tech, so what good is my take on that?
In early Appalachia, for instance, they had poor access to a sufficient supply of gold and silver coinage. So the natural economic result was that some other good (in this case whiskey) became the money supply.
Which is a good historical example of how this works, as well as how federal grifters will literally do anything, including fomenting a civil war, in order to make their currency king.
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I'll check that out later.Fife wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:44 amGloryofGreece wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:39 amHow is currency based off something "real"? Its always imaginary to one degree or another, no?Fife wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:36 amWhatever comes after Federal Reserve Notes.
Nobody knows what that will be, and neither do I; except I'm pretty sure is will be real and not fiat issued by some gang. This is what concerns me most about crypto, but I don't know shit about the tech, so what good is my take on that?
Not currency -- money. Not the same thing.
Check out this quick intro from Rothbard:
https://mises.org/wire/rothbard-essenti ... -inflation
Was it Rothbard who said to think about wages money and value of goods as the amount of time it takes to earn enough money to buy a product.
For instance a new pair of boots coats $200, you earn $10 per hour. Are the boots worth working one long day for.
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In Mesoamerica, I think it was cocoa beans that became a currency (though I might be mistaken).
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If you want an ancient example of a more socialized economy, read up on the Incan empire. No money. Not even large markets, I think. Everything was planned. The government taxed with labor taxes, and then distributed the goods (mostly food and infrastructure) from the labor tax.
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Here's some dated data about what and where money is.
https://www.frbsf.org/education/publica ... unterfeit/
M1 is currently $3.78 trillion, M2 $14,45 trillion. Https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases ... efault.htm
According to this, virtual money outweighs cash by >10:1. Actual printing is a drop in the ocean, the fed could probably print $1T and it not affect the value, since the vast majority of it will go under mattresses or circulate among drug dealers in the rest of the world.
https://www.frbsf.org/education/publica ... unterfeit/
M1 is currently $3.78 trillion, M2 $14,45 trillion. Https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases ... efault.htm
According to this, virtual money outweighs cash by >10:1. Actual printing is a drop in the ocean, the fed could probably print $1T and it not affect the value, since the vast majority of it will go under mattresses or circulate among drug dealers in the rest of the world.
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