Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Hastur » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:31 am

The total number of Syrian refugees are > 11 million. Most of them are still in Syria.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:04 am

BjornP wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:05 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:36 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:28 pm


They do.
Turkey 3.5 million
Lebanon 2.2 million (2015 data)
Jordan 1.2 million (2015)

USA 16.2 thousand
Out of how many?

And it’s not the place of the US to be a holding place for other countries because they screwed up.

We if they can’t take care of themselves, it’s time for the UN to get involved.
You could easily have googled that yourself, but:

Turkey: 79,8 million total population
Lebanon: 6,8 million
Jordan: 9,7 million

So, for Lebanon that would be some four million (or less, given the half a million or so Palestinian refugees they've also housed for decades now) native population.
And?

The sympathy train doesn’t stop at this station.

Considering the US takes a million immigrants a year, and holds between 10 to 20 million illegal aliens in the US at any given time... remove the illegals and we will accept more vetted asylum seekers.

The US has their own problems, if the ME can’t take care of their own, then they shouldn’t expect the US or any other European country to do it for them either.

And before you go on any tangent, we should not accept any people from a country that chants death to America.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by BjornP » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:32 am

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:04 am
BjornP wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:05 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:36 pm


Out of how many?

And it’s not the place of the US to be a holding place for other countries because they screwed up.

We if they can’t take care of themselves, it’s time for the UN to get involved.
You could easily have googled that yourself, but:

Turkey: 79,8 million total population
Lebanon: 6,8 million
Jordan: 9,7 million

So, for Lebanon that would be some four million (or less, given the half a million or so Palestinian refugees they've also housed for decades now) native population.
And?

The sympathy train doesn’t stop at this station.

Considering the US takes a million immigrants a year, and holds between 10 to 20 million illegal aliens in the US at any given time... remove the illegals and we will accept more vetted asylum seekers.

The US has their own problems, if the ME can’t take care of their own, then they shouldn’t expect the US or any other European country to do it for them either.
I'm not trying to get you to feel sympathy. I am trying to get to stop being stupid and saying stupid things.

If Lebanon has 6 million people and 2 million of those are Syrian refugees, what percentage of the population are refugees, TC? Does the US, or any European country have the same percentage of refugees (legal AND illegals), have anything like that percentage? No? Then your claim that "The ME" doesn't take care of "its own" (not that they actually see it that way, but nvm), is false. There are several European countries who have taken none, or next to none refugees.

Not saying that theyshould. If they don't want any refugees, they should, and be able to say no. But that's a different issue. My issue with you regards the basic facts. When you claim that the entire Middle East hasn't accepted any refugees, the story of Lebanon proves your point so EXTREMELY wrong, that it becomes ridiculous. Jordan as well, and Turkey has accepted the highest number of Syrian refugees overall (2,6 million), and the world's largest population of refugees from across the world (3,5 million).
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:35 am

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:04 am
BjornP wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:05 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:36 pm


Out of how many?

And it’s not the place of the US to be a holding place for other countries because they screwed up.

We if they can’t take care of themselves, it’s time for the UN to get involved.
You could easily have googled that yourself, but:

Turkey: 79,8 million total population
Lebanon: 6,8 million
Jordan: 9,7 million

So, for Lebanon that would be some four million (or less, given the half a million or so Palestinian refugees they've also housed for decades now) native population.
And?

The sympathy train doesn’t stop at this station.

Considering the US takes a million immigrants a year, and holds between 10 to 20 million illegal aliens in the US at any given time... remove the illegals and we will accept more vetted asylum seekers.

The US has their own problems, if the ME can’t take care of their own, then they shouldn’t expect the US or any other European country to do it for them either.

And before you go on any tangent, we should not accept any people from a country that chants death to America.
No country shouts death to America. Some people in some countries do.

Look at the figures you asked for, the ME has taken care of the vast majority of ''their own''.
This is a conversation about refugees by the way, if your country is going to offer unfettered financial advantages to economic migration then obviously you are going to get economic migrants. Go after the companies employing illegal immigrants and you will get fewer of them.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:25 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:35 am
This is a conversation about refugees by the way, if your country is going to offer unfettered financial advantages to economic migration then obviously you are going to get economic migrants. Go after the companies employing illegal immigrants and you will get fewer of them.
No, we'll just get more illegal immigrants without jobs. The companies employing them is only part of the problem. State and local governments are encouraging illegal immigration into our country by providing sanctuary cities and providing free healthcare, schooling, and other assistance.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by DBTrek » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:44 am

Apparently all the testosterone in the UK is being hoarded by women.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by DBTrek » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:47 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:35 am

No country shouts death to America. Some people in some countries do.

Derp.

Death to America (Persian: مرگ بر آمریکا‎ Marg bar Āmrikā) is an anti-American political slogan and chant which has been in use in Iran since the inception of the Iranian Revolution in 1979.[1] Ayatollah Khomeini, the first leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, popularized the term.
When the founding father of your country popularizes the term that is still chanted by its citizens today, the "country" shouts it.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:10 am

DBTrek wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:47 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:35 am

No country shouts death to America. Some people in some countries do.

Derp.

Death to America (Persian: مرگ بر آمریکا‎ Marg bar Āmrikā) is an anti-American political slogan and chant which has been in use in Iran since the inception of the Iranian Revolution in 1979.[1] Ayatollah Khomeini, the first leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, popularized the term.
When the founding father of your country popularizes the term that is still chanted by its citizens today, the "country" shouts it.
OK, you found one example.
Why would you use that as an excuse to stop someone who wants to leave that country and its dreadful leaders from claiming refugee status?
That would be like accusing someone who fled ISIS of being a terrorist.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by DBTrek » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:15 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:10 am

OK, you found one example.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:35 am

Kiss my ring

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