Let us talk about religion, but not in the way you think.

[BjornP]

What if heaven and hell were the same place?

(Stole that idea from someone)

Uuhh... then they'd be the same place. I don’t see any importance in that.

[Montegriffo]

Deep, deep down in the deepest layers of hell we all shall be consigned to sit with laptops nailed to our laps, debating in an eternal "Atheism is not a belief system" thread.

(Anyway...cliff notes on the OP vid, pls?)

No nails necessary apparently.

How do you get the little fucker to stick to the cross then?

[doc_loliday]

Deep, deep down in the deepest layers of hell we all shall be consigned to sit with laptops nailed to our laps, debating in an eternal "Atheism is not a belief system" thread

No nails necessary apparently.

I have come around to the idea of God in some form or another. I really don't know who or what to believe though.

[doc_loliday]

Deep, deep down in the deepest layers of hell we all shall be consigned to sit with laptops nailed to our laps, debating in an eternal "Atheism is not a belief system" thread.

(Anyway...cliff notes on the OP vid, pls?)

No nails necessary apparently.

How do you get the little fucker to stick to the cross then?

You're a lot like Judas, so you tell me.

[Montegriffo]

No nails necessary apparently.

How do you get the little fucker to stick to the cross then?

You're a lot like Judas, so you tell me.

30 pieces of silver first please...

[brewster]

Whatever caused the Big Bang is outside time and space. It's not a thing. It's eternal.

That is a statement without basis in any known facts. You are inserting your suppositions into the lack of facts. Your God could be Asimov's hyperspace supercomputer in "The Last Question".

It is precisely based on known facts.

"We don't know what existed before current universe or caused it's creation" is not a fact, it's a lack of them. Leonardo being baffled by an iPhone is not proof of it's divinity.

[Speaker to Animals]

That is a statement without basis in any known facts. You are inserting your suppositions into the lack of facts. Your God could be Asimov's hyperspace supercomputer in "The Last Question".

It is precisely based on known facts.

"We don't know what existed before current universe or caused it's creation" is not a fact, it's a lack of them. Leonardo being baffled by an iPhone is not proof of it's divinity.

There is no before the big bang. You are confused about basic facts.

[brewster]

It is precisely based on known facts.

"We don't know what existed before current universe or caused it's creation" is not a fact, it's a lack of them. Leonardo being baffled by an iPhone is not proof of it's divinity.

There is no before the big bang

Not in THIS universe, but that is the extent of our knowledge. Ignorance is not proof of the divine.

[DBTrek]

I have come around to the idea of God in some form or another. I really don't know who or what to believe though.

Welcome to the club.
It might be hubris to assume we could "know" what to believe, as in grasp the concept, even if it were presented to us.


We can, however, identify a superior model for living life when we see one. Religions tend to hit all three - searching for wisdom, working hard, caring for a family. So even if we can't grasp the concept or truth of a deity, we can at least observe the lives of those who try and contrast them with those who do not.

[Speaker to Animals]

"We don't know what existed before current universe or caused it's creation" is not a fact, it's a lack of them. Leonardo being baffled by an iPhone is not proof of it's divinity.

There is no before the big bang

Not in THIS universe, but that is the extent of our knowledge. Ignorance is not proof of the divine.

LOL

Science fiction much?