If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:06 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:49 am
I’ve always known. It’s the low-info voters slowly being fed talking points by their masters that are just now discovering the information.
;)
Right, so we should listen to your lo-info master who believes wheels have been around for longer than walls?
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by doc_loliday » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:08 pm

Everyone here is old enough to remember when Mexican voters were more conservative and the democrats demanded better border security because Mexicans took American jobs and republicans were exploiting their labor. Now that they vote blue they flipped their stance to Mexicans are just trying to make a better life for themselves taking jobs that nobody wants.

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by doc_loliday » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:10 pm

100 billion to increase security and preserve our culture and way of life? Sounds like a bargain.

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by DBTrek » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:12 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:06 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:49 am
I’ve always known. It’s the low-info voters slowly being fed talking points by their masters that are just now discovering the information.
;)
Right, so we should listen to your lo-info master who believes wheels have been around for longer than walls?
Opposition to the wall:
1. Gotcha games no adults care about (wheel comment, Mexico paying)
2. Steel can be cut
3. Infrastructure costs money

I can see why people of your particular beliefs and persuasion are dominating this debate.
:lol:
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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by PartyOf5 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:15 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:06 pm
Right, so we should listen to your lo-info master who believes wheels have been around for longer than walls?
Don't just listen to him, listen to the people who have to patrol and live on that border every day. Or listen to the Democrat masters who were for the not that long ago, but now call it immoral for no other reason than political gain? Constantly bringing up unrelated shit Trump said doesn't win you any debate points, it only proves you have no real argument.

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by PartyOf5 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:33 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:12 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:06 pm
Right, so we should listen to your lo-info master who believes wheels have been around for longer than walls?
Opposition to the wall:
1. Gotcha games no adults care about (wheel comment, Mexico paying)
2. Steel can be cut
3. Infrastructure costs money

I can see why people of your particular beliefs and persuasion are dominating this debate.
:lol:
Don't forget that when asked direct questions related to his statements he ignores them, knowing full well they won't hold up.

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:01 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:12 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:06 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:49 am
I’ve always known. It’s the low-info voters slowly being fed talking points by their masters that are just now discovering the information.
;)
Right, so we should listen to your lo-info master who believes wheels have been around for longer than walls?
Opposition to the wall:
1. Gotcha games no adults care about (wheel comment, Mexico paying)
2. Steel can be cut
3. Infrastructure costs money

I can see why people of your particular beliefs and persuasion are dominating this debate.
:lol:
Support for the wall.
1. Lies don't matter.
2. Facts don't matter.
3. Money doesn't matter.

Also, integrity and consistency don't matter.

ALL THAT MATTERS IS JUST BUILD THE FUCKING WALL SO TRUMP CAN GET RE-ELECTED.

/shrug
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by Ph64 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:03 pm

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by doc_loliday » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:47 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Support for the wall.
1. Lies don't matter.
2. Facts don't matter.
3. Money doesn't matter.

Also, integrity and consistency don't matter.

ALL THAT MATTERS IS JUST BUILD THE FUCKING WALL SO TRUMP CAN GET RE-ELECTED.

/shrug
I don't want a politician that lies. I don't want a politician that lies to get a wall. Those are my two choices and I will take the latter.

Facts matter. The truth is that democrats don't want a wall because they want Hispanic votes and republicans don't want the changes that come with them. It's our country and we have every right to keep out anyone for any reason, immigrants whose children are voting to change our way of life being one of them.

Money matters. I wouldn't support a 100 trillion dollar wall. I want border security and am willing to pay what it costs to protect the country.

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by PartyOf5 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:53 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:01 pm
Support for the wall.
1. Lies don't matter.
2. Facts don't matter.
3. Money doesn't matter.

Also, integrity and consistency don't matter.

ALL THAT MATTERS IS JUST BUILD THE FUCKING WALL SO TRUMP CAN GET RE-ELECTED.

/shrug
1. What lies? That Trump said the wheel came before the wall? That he said Mexico would pay for it? Neither affects the justifications for a wall.
2. A number of posters have outlined numerous facts to back up our support for a wall in this thread and others. It's not our fault you choose the Pelosi line of defense with "I reject your facts".
3. Money does matter. Again, numerous posts about what the cost will be and justification for that cost. Again, you just go the la la la la route choosing not to listen.