Urban vs. Rural; What's to be done?

[SuburbanFarmer]

It won’t.

But I do agree that having a giant population of illegals is a terrible situation. Make them legal then. The only reason these people are starving and dying to get here is because of the gross incompetence in our immigration policy.

Open the doors wider, get them processed, and start the taxation.

You know we've done the Amnesty you're talking about, Reagan in the mid 80s. All of government cheered and said the problem was solved. Guess what we got, more and more illegal immagrants rolling in awaiting their chance to get amnesty.

We can't afford em buddy.

We also did the mass deportation thing in the 50s. It didn’t work out.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Does SubHuman even know what his stance is? I just read a post where he says to open the doors wider and process them so we can collect taxes, then an hour later he's saying we should eliminating the incentive of jobs that is one of the reason they come here. So let millions in so they can pay taxes, but cut them off from the jobs that are the only way they will be paying any taxes.

Jobs aren't the only incentive. Welfare, free healthcare, and free education are. Cut off the jobs and you will get an even lower class of illegal immigrant infiltrating the US unless you are honest about cutting off incentives and include those as well.

Do you even know whose sock puppet you are?

I said to process the people that want to come in. But remove the incentive for them to come here illegally. Enforce the laws on the books, rather than burn $2T on a pointless exercise.

[C-Mag]

It won’t.

But I do agree that having a giant population of illegals is a terrible situation. Make them legal then. The only reason these people are starving and dying to get here is because of the gross incompetence in our immigration policy.

Open the doors wider, get them processed, and start the taxation.

You know we've done the Amnesty you're talking about, Reagan in the mid 80s. All of government cheered and said the problem was solved. Guess what we got, more and more illegal immagrants rolling in awaiting their chance to get amnesty.

We can't afford em buddy.

We also did the mass deportation thing in the 50s. It didn’t work out.

Actually that was a policy FDR initiated. It worked very well. We've been allowing people to illegally enter the US since the 70s, we did the Amnesty thing in 80s, BJ Clinton built the walls that we have now, with the military. National Guard and Army Reserve built most of it, and as we saw in Tijuana recently, it will stop angry mobs from crossing. In the early 2000s we authorized a fence, but Congress didn't fund it.

This situation is not helping me or you, or our families. This situation helps the Upper Class who can hire cheap house help, gardners, etc. and helps big ag business. Those fuckers want disposable labor to use. They don't have to worry about them joining a union, they don't have to worry about health care or a pension for these people, because their fucking illegal. So they can use them, and easily replace them.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You know we've done the Amnesty you're talking about, Reagan in the mid 80s. All of government cheered and said the problem was solved. Guess what we got, more and more illegal immagrants rolling in awaiting their chance to get amnesty.

We can't afford em buddy.

We also did the mass deportation thing in the 50s. It didn’t work out.

Actually that was a policy FDR initiated. It worked very well. We've been allowing people to illegally enter the US since the 70s, we did the Amnesty thing in 80s, BJ Clinton built the walls that we have now, with the military. National Guard and Army Reserve built most of it, and as we saw in Tijuana recently, it will stop angry mobs from crossing. In the early 2000s we authorized a fence, but Congress didn't fund it.

This situation is not helping me or you, or our families. This situation helps the Upper Class who can hire cheap house help, gardners, etc. and helps big ag business. Those fuckers want disposable labor to use. They don't have to worry about them joining a union, they don't have to worry about health care or a pension for these people, because their fucking illegal. So they can use them, and easily replace them.

My family isn't competing to do slave labor below minimum wage.

And if the existing fence stopped them, then why are we building a 'big beautiful wall'? Why did we need tear gas and troops on the scene to stop them? Are you even sure that they were all stopped?

[clubgop]

Does SubHuman even know what his stance is? I just read a post where he says to open the doors wider and process them so we can collect taxes, then an hour later he's saying we should eliminating the incentive of jobs that is one of the reason they come here. So let millions in so they can pay taxes, but cut them off from the jobs that are the only way they will be paying any taxes.

Jobs aren't the only incentive. Welfare, free healthcare, and free education are. Cut off the jobs and you will get an even lower class of illegal immigrant infiltrating the US unless you are honest about cutting off incentives and include those as well.

He has no idea. History, political or otherwise began on November 9th 2016.

[C-Mag]

My family isn't competing to do slave labor below minimum wage.

And if the existing fence stopped them, then why are we building a 'big beautiful wall'? Why did we need tear gas and troops on the scene to stop them? Are you even sure that they were all stopped?

Yes, your family is competing, you just don't know it. One of the things illegal immigration does for big business is keep a huge supply of labor available, which keeps wages low. Not just for fruit pickers either. This painter explains his experiences pretty well.


We don't need 'a big beautiful wall'. I can't believe you guys are still taking Trump literally on stuff like that. He's a business man who likes to make deals, so he starts out with the Maximum, for shock value and then negotiates back to what he wanted in the first place, and you are happy to give it to him in the end.

[SuburbanFarmer]

My family isn't competing to do slave labor below minimum wage.

And if the existing fence stopped them, then why are we building a 'big beautiful wall'? Why did we need tear gas and troops on the scene to stop them? Are you even sure that they were all stopped?

Yes, your family is competing, you just don't know it. One of the things illegal immigration does for big business is keep a huge supply of labor available, which keeps wages low. Not just for fruit pickers either. This painter explains his experiences pretty well.


We don't need 'a big beautiful wall'. I can't believe you guys are still taking Trump literally on stuff like that. He's a business man who likes to make deals, so he starts out with the Maximum, for shock value and then negotiates back to what he wanted in the first place, and you are happy to give it to him in the end.

Dude. How many times does he need to use the words "Physical Wall" for you to understand that he's not kidding?

And we've been over the painter video before.

[C-Mag]

OK, done with that discussion, back to topic.

So, just turned ont he tube and the remake of the Longest Yard is on, it's a fun show, didn't take away from the original. So, the big game is about to start in the show and the first thing the sports announcer says is...............'Deep in the heart of Toothless Country', meaning rural Texas.


So, I fine, you wanna play that way with rural people, I'll repay you in spades. I'm not angry, just having fun with people that are so fucking dumb they live in near prison like conditions, voluntarily hop on filthy mass transit like 1940s jews and keep voting for the same people that constantly raise your taxes, bring in homeless, welcome heroine users and expect cheers of thanks for making phone apps that show you where the human shit is piling up.

[clubgop]

We also did the mass deportation thing in the 50s. It didn’t work out.

Actually that was a policy FDR initiated. It worked very well. We've been allowing people to illegally enter the US since the 70s, we did the Amnesty thing in 80s, BJ Clinton built the walls that we have now, with the military. National Guard and Army Reserve built most of it, and as we saw in Tijuana recently, it will stop angry mobs from crossing. In the early 2000s we authorized a fence, but Congress didn't fund it.

This situation is not helping me or you, or our families. This situation helps the Upper Class who can hire cheap house help, gardners, etc. and helps big ag business. Those fuckers want disposable labor to use. They don't have to worry about them joining a union, they don't have to worry about health care or a pension for these people, because their fucking illegal. So they can use them, and easily replace them.

My family isn't competing to do slave labor below minimum wage.

And if the existing fence stopped them, then why are we building a 'big beautiful wall'? Why did we need tear gas and troops on the scene to stop them? Are you even sure that they were all stopped?

Did he say all? No he didn't you dishonest fuck.

If the fence is working in one place why not attempt to close the gaps in more vulnerable places?

As for the teargas and troops this was a tv show, the whole caravan itself was for media consumption and people like you eat it all up. Talk about incentive, giving you a good show gets your approval, true for the "last great statesman" Obama and true for the migrant caravan. If it makes for a good show you fall for it hook line and sinker.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

If the fence is working in one place why not attempt to close the gaps in more vulnerable places?

Golly... I been hearing all over that The Wall is... erm.. symbolic and whatnot.

Have you GOP hacks been gas-lighting?