Urban vs. Rural; What's to be done?

[C-Mag]

I honestly don't understand how little free migration peeps care about their fellow humans. They don't want these migrants legal, they want to keep them illegal, running from the border patrol, at the mercy of gangs and coyotes, having to cross parched deserts to get here. A lot of them die making the journey, but the free migration peeps don't give AF.

If put up a wall, and make appropriate port of entries we can bring this thing above board. These people won't be subject to this. Big Business and the 1% that use these people as human chattel will suddenly have to treat them as fellow human beings.

Who is for ''free migration''?
That's as dumb as saying people want open borders.

A 2000 mile wall won't even get half built before it is abandoned by the next administration.
A total waste of resources and manpower.

Since when did Conservatives get so keen on spending other peoples money?

The status quo is pretty much free migration.

So, Monte, you don't give a fuck about your fellow human, you do know Brown people are human right ?

I want everything up front and legal, which would really help out all these migrants. Keeping them illegal and the status quo is a crime against humanity.

[heydaralon]

Conservatives have never been against spending money, the good ones just tend to want it to go towards stuff that will be a longterm benefit vs a longterm liability. If stricter border patrol and physical security prevents a host of political and social problems which will end up costing us 1000 times more, then it is a good investment.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It won’t.

But I do agree that having a giant population of illegals is a terrible situation. Make them legal then. The only reason these people are starving and dying to get here is because of the gross incompetence in our immigration policy.

Open the doors wider, get them processed, and start the taxation.

[Montegriffo]

I honestly don't understand how little free migration peeps care about their fellow humans. They don't want these migrants legal, they want to keep them illegal, running from the border patrol, at the mercy of gangs and coyotes, having to cross parched deserts to get here. A lot of them die making the journey, but the free migration peeps don't give AF.

If put up a wall, and make appropriate port of entries we can bring this thing above board. These people won't be subject to this. Big Business and the 1% that use these people as human chattel will suddenly have to treat them as fellow human beings.

Who is for ''free migration''?
That's as dumb as saying people want open borders.

A 2000 mile wall won't even get half built before it is abandoned by the next administration.
A total waste of resources and manpower.

Since when did Conservatives get so keen on spending other peoples money?

The status quo is pretty much free migration.

So, Monte, you don't give a fuck about your fellow human, you do know Brown people are human right ?

I want everything up front and legal, which would really help out all these migrants. Keeping them illegal and the status quo is a crime against humanity.

Then process asylum seekers and deport those not eligible.

Those calling refugees an invasion force are the ones who don't give a fuck about their fellow humans.

The whole invasion caravan story was cynical electioneering which disappeared immediately after the mid-terms were over.

Huge fines for employing illegals would do far more good than Trump's 2000 mile vanity project.

[heydaralon]

It won’t.

But I do agree that having a giant population of illegals is a terrible situation. Make them legal then. The only reason these people are starving and dying to get here is because of the gross incompetence in our immigration policy.

Open the doors wider, get them processed, and start the taxation.

No. We do not need a huge pool of uneducated non English speaking people in an already tense society (or any society). We already have a huge population of legal immigrants on welfare. Why did we allow them in if they are a net drain? If they want to come here, learn english, a productive skill, and apply for citizenship. Letting in a bunch of low skilled people is a punishment for our society, taxpayers, and safety. We will need far fewer people in the future, not more.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It won’t.

But I do agree that having a giant population of illegals is a terrible situation. Make them legal then. The only reason these people are starving and dying to get here is because of the gross incompetence in our immigration policy.

Open the doors wider, get them processed, and start the taxation.

No. We do not need a huge pool of uneducated non English speaking people in an already tense society (or any society). We already have a huge population of legal immigrants on welfare. Why did we allow them in if they are a net drain? If they want to come here, learn english, a productive skill, and apply for citizenship. Letting in a bunch of low skilled people is a punishment for our society, taxpayers, and safety. We will need far fewer people in the future, not more.

Look at Canada's policy. They let you in if you have marketable skills, or job prospects. Otherwise you're out. These people are coming here because they have jobs waiting for them. Cut off the incentive, solve the problem.

Don't offer human beings Candyland Across the Desert, and then try to block them off from it. They will find a way in. Remove the incentive.

[clubgop]

It won’t.

But I do agree that having a giant population of illegals is a terrible situation. Make them legal then. The only reason these people are starving and dying to get here is because of the gross incompetence in our immigration policy.

Open the doors wider, get them processed, and start the taxation.

No. We do not need a huge pool of uneducated non English speaking people in an already tense society (or any society). We already have a huge population of legal immigrants on welfare. Why did we allow them in if they are a net drain? If they want to come here, learn english, a productive skill, and apply for citizenship. Letting in a bunch of low skilled people is a punishment for our society, taxpayers, and safety. We will need far fewer people in the future, not more.

Look at Canada's policy. They let you in if you have marketable skills, or job prospects. Otherwise you're out. These people are coming here because they have jobs waiting for them. Cut off the incentive, solve the problem.

Don't offer human beings Candyland Across the Desert, and then try to block them off from it. They will find a way in. Remove the incentive.

OmG the entire Democrat will call you a nazi for that. That is almost 99% the policy Stephen Miller presented and the MSM and Democrat party, I know, I know, I repeat myself, absolutely lambasted him for it. If you were actually paying attention and listen to what Donald Trump has said that is the end goal. Canada also has a neighbor that respects and enforces it borders as well. That really fucking helps God you are such a dishonest hack bitch.

[PartyOf5]

Since when did Conservatives get so keen on spending other peoples money?

We're doing it to save brown lives. Brown lives matter too Monty. Without a wall, brown people are dying in the desert because there is no wall. Two young migrant children died because there was no wall to dissuade their parents from bringing them on a long, arduous trek to our border.

Why did Democrats get so keen on killing brown people?

[PartyOf5]

Does SubHuman even know what his stance is? I just read a post where he says to open the doors wider and process them so we can collect taxes, then an hour later he's saying we should eliminating the incentive of jobs that is one of the reason they come here. So let millions in so they can pay taxes, but cut them off from the jobs that are the only way they will be paying any taxes.

Jobs aren't the only incentive. Welfare, free healthcare, and free education are. Cut off the jobs and you will get an even lower class of illegal immigrant infiltrating the US unless you are honest about cutting off incentives and include those as well.

[C-Mag]

It won’t.

But I do agree that having a giant population of illegals is a terrible situation. Make them legal then. The only reason these people are starving and dying to get here is because of the gross incompetence in our immigration policy.

Open the doors wider, get them processed, and start the taxation.

You know we've done the Amnesty you're talking about, Reagan in the mid 80s. All of government cheered and said the problem was solved. Guess what we got, more and more illegal immagrants rolling in awaiting their chance to get amnesty.

We can't afford em buddy.