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Re: Socialism

Post by brewster » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:38 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:28 pm
I pay almost $1000 a month just in case something like that happens. How would me getting seriously ill while having medical insurance change my mind?
What happens if you are so sick you are unable to work? Will you lose your job and insurance? Does you job cover you indefinitely even if you're making nothing and can't pay that $1000 per month?
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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:42 pm

It would work better to extend Medicare to people who cannot afford or get insurance. That lowers the insurance rates for everybody else.

Other than that, end the insurance markets somehow so that the United States is just one big insurance pool.

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Re: Socialism

Post by heydaralon » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:55 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:42 pm
It would work better to extend Medicare to people who cannot afford or get insurance. That lowers the insurance rates for everybody else.

Other than that, end the insurance markets somehow so that the United States is just one big insurance pool.
Why do insurance companies form cartels in a single state or area? Why is it that certain insurance companies have a monopoly on certain areas? I've often wondered how this came to be. That shit pisses me off.
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Re: Socialism

Post by heydaralon » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:56 pm

brewster wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:38 pm

What happens if you are so sick you are unable to work? Will you lose your job and insurance? Does you job cover you indefinitely even if you're making nothing and can't pay that $1000 per month?
It depends on how you got sick. If you are obese or whatever, then its kind of like you did that to yourself, and I don't think the taxpayer should be on the hook. Especially fat fucks who are on disability and use motorized wheelchairs. Those people are scum.
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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:58 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:55 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:42 pm
It would work better to extend Medicare to people who cannot afford or get insurance. That lowers the insurance rates for everybody else.

Other than that, end the insurance markets somehow so that the United States is just one big insurance pool.
Why do insurance companies form cartels in a single state or area? Why is it that certain insurance companies have a monopoly on certain areas? I've often wondered how this came to be. That shit pisses me off.
For one thing, it started naturally because each state implemented their own regulatory environment.

To work towards a single insurance pool, sans federal monkeying around, states would have to voluntarily join a coalition that all use the same regulations.

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Re: Socialism

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:16 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:24 am
Fife wrote:
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Who do Canadian doctors and nurses work for?
Their patients.
The government.
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Re: Socialism

Post by DBTrek » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:24 am

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:09 pm

How much have your premiums jumped since ACA? Mine have skyrocketed. It fucking rages me. My parents told me that they are paying more for health insurance too.
About $300-$400 a month. Incredible increase to pay for the costs of Americans who don’t give a fuck about their own health.
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Re: Socialism

Post by DBTrek » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:28 am

brewster wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:38 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:28 pm
I pay almost $1000 a month just in case something like that happens. How would me getting seriously ill while having medical insurance change my mind?
What happens if you are so sick you are unable to work? Will you lose your job and insurance? Does you job cover you indefinitely even if you're making nothing and can't pay that $1000 per month?
What happens if I die, Brewster? What then? Omg, omg, someone died.
Pfffft

Look at it this way, how much should the rest of you pay to keep me alive? If my treatments cost $500 a month you all good chipping in fractions of a penny? Probably. If my treatment is going to cost $360 million, should you all pay that? Is that the best use of $360 million American citizens can come up with? Keep me alive for another few months?

Because you won’t have a choice. Everyone will pay whatever cost, no matter how exorbitant, to keep everyone else alive for one more minute.

Stupid. Wasteful.
/shrug
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Re: Socialism

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Re: Socialism

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:09 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:28 pm
DrYouth wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:44 pm
It would only take one devastating illness in yourself or a close family member for you to think differently about this.
Illnesses don't only affect the overweight.
I pay almost $1000 a month just in case something like that happens. How would me getting seriously ill while having medical insurance change my mind?

As I said, paying even more to cover everyone else isn’t great for me. In fact, I only have to pay so much because others already do not.
$1000 per month, Jesus Christ you are getting ripped off.
Average YEARLY private health insurance in the UK is £1453.
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