Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Hastur » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:47 pm

I like the idea of carbon footprint labeling. I'm sick and tired of having to explain to people why buying imported beef from Uruguay is better than buying Swedish if you want to be environmentally responsible.
Beef in Uruguay graze the grasslands all year. Swedish beef is kept indoors half the year in heated barns and are fed grain that is fertilized and transported with fozil fuel. The freezing of South American beef and transport by ship uses a lot less fuel per kilo beef.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by DBTrek » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:50 pm

"In the future, people will get all worked up over the origins of other people's hamburgers"

"That's ridiculous"

"Just wait"

:doh:
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by nmoore63 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:01 pm

To the surprise of no one... I don't trust the government to do "carbon footprint labeling" in a manner that doesn't simply act as a barrier to competitors and entrepreneurs in general.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by heydaralon » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:07 pm

Hastur wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:47 pm
I like the idea of carbon footprint labeling. I'm sick and tired of having to explain to people why buying imported beef from Uruguay is better than buying Swedish if you want to be environmentally responsible.
Beef in Uruguay graze the grasslands all year. Swedish beef is kept indoors half the year in heated barns and are fed grain that is fertilized and transported with fozil fuel. The freezing of South American beef and transport by ship uses a lot less fuel per kilo beef.

I wouldn't worry about it. In a few months when your country's Marxist Green Govt policies lead to mass starvation debating over beef will be as hypothetical as debating whether Flash Gordon could beat Han Solo in a fistfight. By then all the pets will be gone, and tree bark and blades of grass will be how Swedes sustain themselves.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by heydaralon » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:12 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:01 pm
To the surprise of no one... I don't trust the government to do "carbon footprint labeling" in a manner that doesn't simply act as a barrier to competitors and entrepreneurs in general.
That carbon footprint shit is a bad farce. I remember in my high school environmental "science" class they were pushing that shit hard too. True fucking story, my AP Environmental science teacher lost her job and went to work at fucking Wal Mart. Lol imagine lecturing children about waste, consumerism, excessive plastic, destruction of forests, emissions, and then going to work for that place. :lol:
I wonder if she appreciated the irony...
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:34 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:50 pm
"In the future, people will get all worked up over the origins of other people's hamburgers"

"That's ridiculous"

"Just wait"

:doh:
In the present, people will fight for their right to stay uninformed, imagine that.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by DBTrek » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:36 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:34 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:50 pm
"In the future, people will get all worked up over the origins of other people's hamburgers"

"That's ridiculous"

"Just wait"

:doh:
In the present, people will fight for their right to stay uninformed, imagine that.
Sadly you're confusing "informed" with "indoctrinated".
We reserve the right to remain non-indoctrinated.
You can tell it's indoctrination, not information, because of the left's aggressive push to stifle all dissent and deplatform any opposing views.
Information doesn't rely on tyranny to survive.
Only bad ideas require the aggressive policing of competitors.
;)
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:59 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:36 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:34 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:50 pm
"In the future, people will get all worked up over the origins of other people's hamburgers"

"That's ridiculous"

"Just wait"

:doh:
In the present, people will fight for their right to stay uninformed, imagine that.
Sadly you're confusing "informed" with "indoctrinated".
We reserve the right to remain non-indoctrinated.
You can tell it's indoctrination, not information, because of the left's aggressive push to stifle all dissent and deplatform any opposing views.
Information doesn't rely on tyranny to survive.
Only bad ideas require the aggressive policing of competitors.
;)
Hmm, so the ability to argue one's position ''aggressively'' indicates that one's position is indoctrination?
You can be sure that this gem of a statement isn't going to come back and bite you on your arse.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by DBTrek » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:06 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:59 pm
Hmm, so the ability to argue one's position ''aggressively'' indicates that one's position is indoctrination?
You can be sure that this gem of a statement isn't going to come back and bite you on your arse.
No, my illiterate friend.
What I said was:

"You can tell it's indoctrination, not information, because of the left's aggressive push to stifle all dissent and deplatform any opposing views."

-not-

"the ability to argue one's position ''aggressively'' indicates that one's position is indoctrination"

... and here I thought the English spoke ... English.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by C-Mag » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:13 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:01 pm
To the surprise of no one... I don't trust the government to do "carbon footprint labeling" in a manner that doesn't simply act as a barrier to competitors and entrepreneurs in general.
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