HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

[Montegriffo]

I would argue one example of tyranny would be when the electorate of a country vote in a free and fair election for some proposition, and the government bureaucrats and political class proceed to violate and negate that vote by any means available to them. At that point, it's a tyranny by spineless cowards who hide behind political privilege and corruption.

Monty might be able to imagine such a scenario..

First of all the referendum (not election you tool) was based on lies and misinformation, was vague and ill-defined, contained no details of what kind of deal we would leave the EU with and was advisory and not legally binding.

Referendums are not legally binding, so legally the Government can ignore the results; for example, even if the result of a pre-legislative referendum were a majority of "No" for a proposed law, Parliament could pass it anyway, because parliament is sovereign.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendu ... ed_Kingdom

Secondly, the Brexit results have been acted on. Article 50 was invoked and Britain has agreed on an exit deal with the EU and if passed by Parliament will be put into effect.

The government has withheld from Parliament the information from a damning report on the consequences of a ''no deal Brexit''.
Last week the government was found in contempt of Parliament for refusing to release the full legal advice on the deal instead issuing only a summary to Parliament.

MPs accused of contempt of Parliament may be suspended or expelled.[19] They may also be committed to the clock tower of the Palace of Westminster,[19] although this practice has not been used since Charles Bradlaugh was detained in 1880. Strangers (those who are not members of the House) may be committed to prison during the life of the Parliament. The House of Lords has the power to fine as well as to order imprisonment for a term of years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Parliament

Free and fair do not describe any aspect of Brexit and if next week's vote in the Commons on the exit deal fails to pass it is likely that a vote of no confidence in the PM will force her resignation giving the Conservative two weeks to find a replacement.

[Montegriffo]

I would argue one example of tyranny would be when the electorate of a country vote in a free and fair election for some proposition, and the government bureaucrats and political class proceed to violate and negate that vote by any means available to them. At that point, it's a tyranny by spineless cowards who hide behind political privilege and corruption.

Monty might be able to imagine such a scenario..

And Monty would probably just want to vote someone else in

I don't think Monte understands Globalism = Big Business
Further I don't think he understands that Globalist Corporate giants own politicians like Macron, and are willing to fuck over workers for their private profits, then lay climate taxes on the same people.

I don't think you understand what globalism is. To you and others here it is just a big catch-all name for everything you hate about international trade.

Here's the actual definition

the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.

[Zlaxer]

[Speaker to Animals]

And Monty would probably just want to vote someone else in

I don't think Monte understands Globalism = Big Business
Further I don't think he understands that Globalist Corporate giants own politicians like Macron, and are willing to fuck over workers for their private profits, then lay climate taxes on the same people.

I don't think you understand what globalism is. To you and others here it is just a big catch-all name for everything you hate about international trade.

Here's the actual definition

the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.

i.e. Neomercantalism

Which is what people are willing to burn shit down in order to fight against.

[Montegriffo]

Neomercantilism is a policy regime that encourages exports, discourages imports, controls capital movement, and centralizes currency decisions in the hands of a central government. The objective of neo-mercantilist policies is to increase the level of foreign reserves held by the government, allowing more effective monetary policy and fiscal policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neomercantilism

Sounds like Trump's policy of tariffs and his attempts to reduce the trade deficit to me.
Kind of like the opposite of globalism but not the first time you've made things up tonight.

Any luck finding a quote from me stating the far right are solely responsible for the violent protests in France yet?

[Kazmyr]

So mob rule every time government opposition doesn't get its way?

The ballot can work. Doesn’t mean it always does.

If you want to be someone who relies only on the vote and kumbaya chanting, then you’re the kind of person that government LOVES.

Again, what’s real tyranny, Montel?

Where did I say that?

Real tyranny doesn't give you the option to vote for change.
Real tyranny has no fair justice system.
Real tyranny mass murders its own citizens.
Real tyranny is cruel and oppressive.

At what point do you believe violence is an appropriate response to State malfeasance?

So you do have a limit on how effective you think the process can be. That’s the point.

Yes, riots in the streets over trivial shit are dumb and counterproductive. Riots in the streets when the duly elected government completely and blatantly fucks off with their mandate? Now you’re getting somewhere. StA pointed this out.

Do I like bystanders getting their property destroyed? No. I just dislike notorious globalist government fuckery even less. At some point, govt disregard will be checked. Not every instance requires the guillotine, but ignore the governmental mandate long enough and you might get there.

[GloryofGreece]

I've heard of this twit before and his voice is insufferable. "life styles of the rich" is what it sound like literally. I made it 4 minutes. Everything seemed fairly accurate. I wonder when we'll revert back to Monarchy?

[Montegriffo]

The ballot can work. Doesn’t mean it always does.

If you want to be someone who relies only on the vote and kumbaya chanting, then you’re the kind of person that government LOVES.

Again, what’s real tyranny, Montel?

Where did I say that?

Real tyranny doesn't give you the option to vote for change.
Real tyranny has no fair justice system.
Real tyranny mass murders its own citizens.
Real tyranny is cruel and oppressive.

At what point do you believe violence is an appropriate response to State malfeasance?

So you do have a limit on how effective you think the process can be. That’s the point.

Yes, riots in the streets over trivial shit are dumb and counterproductive. Riots in the streets when the duly elected government completely and blatantly fucks off with their mandate? Now you’re getting somewhere. StA pointed this out.

Do I like bystanders getting their property destroyed? No. I just dislike notorious globalist government fuckery even less. At some point, govt disregard will be checked. Not every instance requires the guillotine, but ignore the governmental mandate long enough and you might get there.

Everyone knew Macron was a globalist, big government supporter of business when they voted for him.
I mean, he was a former investment banker and the minister of finance and industry between 2014 - 2016. They knew exactly who he was and what his policies were. When the French economy experienced a brief upswing after he took the reins he was very popular (almost 60% approval rating) now that the economy is declining the fickle citizens want to burn down Paris and throw him under the bus.

If the French electorate had wanted some sort of France First nationalist they would have voted for Le Pen.

By the way, those of you hoping Le Pen would be his replacement will be disappointed to know that one of the most left-wing, possible candidates, Jean-Luc Melenchon currently leads the popularity polls.

[TheReal_ND]

Le Penn is leftwing by anyones standards. Being pro immigration is not left wing.

[Ph64]

I've heard of this twit before and his voice is insufferable. "life styles of the rich" is what it sound like literally. I made it 4 minutes. Everything seemed fairly accurate. I wonder when we'll revert back to Monarchy?

LOL, lifestyles of the rich and famous - Robin Leach (and yes, I had to look that up), you're right, does have that same vocal pattern. I find It annoying too, personally, but his analysis of things is pretty decent in this case (I'll judge on the content of his words rather than the color of his voice).