Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[heydaralon]

You're going to need to grow bigger than the average US state to achieve it.

Most people in Denmark only get one shower per week. The rest of the water goes into ornate fountains for the Saudis Royal family and their rape harem. I wish that those Danes showered more. One time I was in Epcot and I saw a Danish man stick his head into a urinal and use the soap dispensed from the sink as shampoo. He told me that they didn't even have this technology in Scandinavia and he was just grateful to eat a meal that day that wasn't a leftover MRE from when the Americans liberated Europe in the 40's. In 70+ years these people haven't figured out how to sustain themselves. They didn't even have roads till we built those for them. And they can vote. Scary...

[Montegriffo]

You're going to need to grow bigger than the average US state to achieve it.

It's not the size of the constituency that matters but what you do with it.

[C-Mag]

Macron Shuts Down Paris in Attempt To Stop Protests, Deploys 89,000 Police Around France….

(Reuters)Protesters, using social media, have billed the weekend as “Act IV” in a dramatic challenge to Macron and his policies.

The protests, named after the high-visibility safety jackets French motorists have to keep in their cars, erupted in November over the squeeze on household budgets caused by fuel taxes.

Demonstrations have since swelled into a broad, sometimes-violent rebellion against Macron – a challenge made more difficult to handle since the movement has no formal leader...……………..

Protesters ask for lower taxes, higher salaries, cheaper energy costs, better retirement provisions and even Macron’s resignation.

[BjornP]

Why is it that any time a far right politician in Austria, France, or wherever seems poised to gain power, the EU technocrats lift the curtain a bit and reveal their contempt for the electorate. They will openly say that they will not let this person win and that free speech will be restricted. Don't pretend this hasn't happened multiple times. This isn't a fluke either. Marine Le Pen got 34% in the runoff French election. The AfD got 13% in 2017. This is to say nothing of Poland and Hungary's political shift. Why do you suppose this is happening, and why is it happening now?

You ought to seperate the some things here. There are definitely politicians and officials, influential ones, within the EU who want to centralize and federalize the EU. The Spinelli Group is probably the most influential, along with its founder, Guy Verhofstadt (a Belgian). When it comes to free speech, that's not an issue or motivation for them. The federalists argue for a more centralized system because they belong either to the idealist faction who thinks only by joining together as one, European super-state can wars (in Europe) be stopped forever. And then you have economic pragmatists, they're probably the largest group and the group with most economic backing. They just want the EU to centralize and federalize because it leads to a huge 500+ million market of potential consumers, with a central commission in Brussels being able to demand that a member country open up their market to a product their national laboratories migh have deemed dangerous. Money talks everywhere.

As for freedom of speech: The most recent case when it comes to freedom of speech restrictions was the "meme law". It was put forth by the EU Commission to be voted on by the EU parliament - it didn't pass, fortunately. But that law wasn't motivated by, or even publicly argued as, a law aimed against politically incorrect memes or whatever. It was a piece of legislation funded by copyright holders in the photo, art, sound and video industries. They were the ones lobbying the law. The argument was that all those images used in memes, gifs, youtube videos using clips, etc. were using their IP without permission or buying the privilege to do so. And the thing all these major (and minor) companies love about the EU is that they only have to target their lobbying one place, in one building and they suddenly get access to a half a billion consumers via an unelected EU Commission. Saves money for them, and gives them control over a market of half a billion people. It's not "Marxists" that are threatening liberty in Europe. In the EU, if anything it's the Marxist parties that are most vocal Exiters.

The EU isn't the Spinelli Group however, or the federalists. When you, or anyone else, mistake the federalists for "the EU", you're effectively handing over ownership of the project to them. Which is what they want, what they argue. Poland and Hungary's governments aren't anti-EU, they're not arguing for an exit from the EU. They want the EU to return to a more decentralized, less interfering, more pragmatic, assocation of independent countries. If one keeps talking about "The EU", keeps associating it with the wishes and dreams of the federalists and those arguing for more centralization, you're doing countries like Poland a huge disservice. And Denmark, too, since we've also long been on the restrict immigration and no one but two minor parties advocate for a United States of Europe.

I do not want a return to facism in Europe btw. Unlike your governments and many of your pitiful voters, I actually enjoy liberty. The right to bear arms, the right to free speech, the right to a real trial etc, are all values that are important to me. But your policies of valuing muslim rape gangs over taxpayers safety (a single European taxpayer should have exponentially more value than the entire suffering of the Levant and horn of Africa btw because they are citzens, and citizens are the only people the EU should care about). The mayor of Cologne, a self proclaimed feminist, threw her own ideology and supporters under the bus when the rape attacks happened. She hates white men, but she ignored the reality of the situation and real rape culture that is endemic in the entire Umma. France did the same. Do you not see a connection between letting in filthy rapist animals, and how this will cause citizens to reject the power system that allows this to happen?

Again, Germany isn't the EU, doesn't lead it, Germany doesn't dictate the migration policy of the other EU member states. There is no "policy of valuing muslim rape gangs over taxpayer safety" here in Denmark.

I am being hyperbolic, but so is your government. You guys have a serious probelm with youth unemployment in the very countries that are the places where all these muslims mob rush in. Gibraltar saw revolting violent muslim molesting mobs stampede the gates. These countries were having serious anarchist riots over the dim career prospects for youth not long ago. We are talking over a third of youth in Spain, Portugal, and Greece being unemployed. Italy has long resented the huge burden their populace, asylum centers, and navy bear from picking up these coyote rape rafts in the Mediterranean and has also expressed open contempt for the EU. Greece is a filthy disgusting place already with rampant laziness and at one time 35% unemployment. They had Golden dawn and Syriza, neo nazis and commies gaining support, and you morons think it is a wise idea to allow millions of muslims from Turkey and Libya to enter Europe through this powder keg of a country? How dumb are you guys? If 1 in 3 people my age didn't have a job, and all of a sudden millions of criminals were in my already hopeless country driving down govt budgets, screwing with the labor markets and generally prompting xenophobia due to their boorish behavior, how will that react with a place where extremist political ideologies are seriously being considered? Do you know anything about Europe in the 1930's? That is a recipe for destruction. The fact that the EU doesn't see the correlation between their own stupid open borders globalist shit and the voters increasingly rejecting them through these anti EU candidates shows me that your whole Euro project is doomed, and that your leaders are far stupider than Hellen Keller (who was an actual retard).

My government has very little problem with youth unemployment. Spain, Greece, Portugal, though? Sure. And given the economic realities in not just those countries, but also for the sake of protecting the general welfare of all other European countries, even the European left endorse restrictions on migration and accepting refugees. The idea that we're heading for a resurgence of Fascism, that Muslim immigrants in Europe are the new Jews... ? That's a talking point some of the politically correct, open borders elite types used in the 90's. Similar arguments are used today, where people who want to restrict immigration and slandered by being called "nationalists". I don't care about the hyperbole; it's simply wrong to suggest that we're heading the way of 1930's Europe.

Keep this shit up. If Europe falls apart, Trump will probably win 3 terms, and he can keep making our own country better. Your continent will be a warning to American voters on what not to do, and to be honest, it will be for the best if the EU goes the way of Austro-Hungary and the Ottomans. I actually care about human dignity for all of mankind and I respect everyone, and once the EUSSR falls apart, it will replace the decay and rapist gobalist fatalism that has grown on your Caliphate continent like Stage 4 anal cancer. I would rather live in a full sceptic tank underneath a Port au Prince AIDS clinic than live anywhere in Europe, because at least there is a limit to how disgusting that lifestyle will be. You guys keep setting the bar lower and lower, and every time I think that you've reached the floor it's some oak island type shit and a mysterious trap door drops you down another layer to cucked Euro-debauchery. You won't even have electricity by the time your next generation is college aged, because your entire govt budget will go towards building mosques venerating the acid attack martyrs, with Merkel cutting the ribbon. I hope one day you folks will see the light and return to the values of the West that allowed you to even get a society Muslims wanted to loot.

I think you should visit and stay for maybe a week, in any European city. I think you'd be surprised to see how few rape gangs prowl by, the absence of Sharia police patrols in the streets. I agree there are problems here, but your mental image of the scope, the extent, the scale... getting worried about Europe "falling", sharia states, etc.... it's like if I pretended you had reason to fear getting conquered by Native Americans. Makes for high drama, but it isn't realistic.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistic ... _in_the_EU

In terms of warning of immigration, I think your country became a warning of what not to do in the 16th century, tbh. Denmark has had a more restrictive immigration policy than the US for far longer than anyone in Europe ever heard the name Trump.

[The Conservative]

I've been called some terrible things here on the MHF including an apologist for rapists, a Marxist, a chicken fucker and a cunt.
Never before though have I been so insulted as to suggest that I'm an American.
Take that back DB or I'm crossing you off my non-denominational winter festival greeting card list.

As an American, I can honestly say we don't want him. Someone from Spain wants to take him?

Which part of my statement made you think I want to become an American?
I've already won the lottery of life by being born an Englishman.

That explains more than not.

[The Conservative]

Spain still has laws against more gypsies coming in, I thought.

Don't you remember, he doesn't believe in borders...so why should laws matter to him?

What a ridiculous thing to say.
Of course I believe in borders.
What I don't believe in is refusing asylum to genuine refugees based on their skin colour or which creation myth they believe in.
I also believe that if, during the asylum process, evidence is found to prove that a potential migrant is a danger to society they should be refused permission and returned home.
As for respecting the law, I'm taking no lectures from a dimwit who has openly called for drone strikes and the machine-gunning of migrants approaching the border.

When they attempt to break a border wall illegally instead of entering the country leggaly through a well documented border entry port, they are no longer “migrants” but an invasion force.

Get that through your thick skull you wanker.

[Montegriffo]

Don't you remember, he doesn't believe in borders...so why should laws matter to him?

What a ridiculous thing to say.
Of course I believe in borders.
What I don't believe in is refusing asylum to genuine refugees based on their skin colour or which creation myth they believe in.
I also believe that if, during the asylum process, evidence is found to prove that a potential migrant is a danger to society they should be refused permission and returned home.
As for respecting the law, I'm taking no lectures from a dimwit who has openly called for drone strikes and the machine-gunning of migrants approaching the border.

When they attempt to break a border wall illegally instead of entering the country leggaly through a well documented border entry port, they are no longer “migrants” but an invasion force.

Get that through your thick skull you wanker.

By ''entering the country leggaly'' do you mean on foot?

[Speaker to Animals]

The people who correct grammar will be second to deportation, right after people who drive slow in the passing lane.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The people who correct grammar will be second to deportation, right after people who drive slow in the passing lane.

So you’re aiming for a nation that produces no food and spells poorly...

[Speaker to Animals]

The people who correct grammar will be second to deportation, right after people who drive slow in the passing lane.

So you’re aiming for a nation that produces no food and spells poorly...

The only things people produce, who drive slow in the passing lane, are problems and accidents.

Nor has anyone proven to any satisfactory degree that these two groups are, in fact, separate groups rather than just a single group also known as cunt drivers. It stands to reason cunt drivers, when not driving slow with their eyes glued to the rearview mirror and jerking off to the frustration they sow, are on the Internet correcting grammar.