Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[DBTrek]

Still no evidence of fuel tax revenue going to help business.

You are never going to see that evidence, and Monte will never stop using the baseless claim as the lynch pin of his fallacious argument.
/shrug

[Speaker to Animals]

Fuck globalism. Fuck neoliberalism. Fuck progressivism. Monty, you really need to unmindfuck yourself and decide what side you are on, because you really do not seem to understand whose colors you are wearing right now.

[BjornP]

Still no evidence of fuel tax revenue going to help business.

You are never going to see that evidence, and Monte will never stop using the baseless claim as the lynch pin of his fallacious argument.
/shrug

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_conservatism#Europe

Iow, Environmentalism ≠ Socialism.

[DBTrek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_conservatism#Europe

Iow, Environmentalism ≠ Socialism.

Taxing fuel to combat “climate change” is environmentalism like taxing soda to fight obesity is healthcare.

You need to look at how a message is being leveraged, by whom, for whom, to understand context. Hitting Wikipedia up with your preconceptions and finding a non-related article to cite isn’t doing anything to improve your understanding.

[Martin Hash]

Environmentalism may not equal Socialism, but Greens are certainly Marxist.

[GloryofGreece]

If the major manifestations of the liberal agenda went from the 90s to political correctness to ecology back to race to gender to sexual identity currently then where will the next phases go to?

[Zlaxer]

If the major manifestations of the liberal agenda went from the 90s to political correctness to ecology back to race to gender to sexual identity currently then where will the next phases go to?

Its always been aimed at achieving the Final State - don’t get distracted.

[BjornP]

Taxing fuel to combat “climate change” is environmentalism like taxing soda to fight obesity is healthcare.

You need to look at how a message is being leveraged, by whom, for whom, to understand context. Hitting Wikipedia up with your preconceptions and finding a non-related article to cite isn’t doing anything to improve your understanding.

We agree on the stupidity on the tax. I will try and explain the purpose of my posting that link to you, since you seem to misunderstand my "preconceptions" and why it is, in fact, related to the subject at hand. That I'm using a wikipedia article is for your benefit. I already know that Green Conservativism is a thing, it's common knowledge for me and where I am. I needed a quick overview for your benefit, written in English, so I used wikipedia:

I posted the link to you because you've been describing Macron's fuel tax as "Socialist", which I suspected you only did because you made a mental connection between environmentalism and Socialism and making a show out of how obviously it was so. It isn't, though. It seemed obvious to me that you must be unaware of "green taxes" being something even Conservative governments might enact, otherwise why label Macron's fuel tax "Socialist"?

If the politician creating the tax is not a Socialist, if the plan behind is not to create a Socialist society, then the tax is not Socialist either. I hope you can see the logic. I suggest you take your own (bolded) advice to heart, then. You have been presented with enough evidence that it would be illogical to keep painting his stated and enacted policies as "Socialist".

[Zlaxer]

Taxing fuel to combat “climate change” is environmentalism like taxing soda to fight obesity is healthcare.

You need to look at how a message is being leveraged, by whom, for whom, to understand context. Hitting Wikipedia up with your preconceptions and finding a non-related article to cite isn’t doing anything to improve your understanding.

We agree on the stupidity on the tax. I will try and explain the purpose of my posting that link to you, since you seem to misunderstand my "preconceptions" and why it is, in fact, related to the subject at hand. That I'm using a wikipedia article is for your benefit. I already know that Green Conservativism is a thing, it's common knowledge for me and where I am. I needed a quick overview for your benefit, written in English, so I used wikipedia:

I posted the link to you because you've been describing Macron's fuel tax as "Socialist", which I suspected you only did because you made a mental connection between environmentalism and Socialism and making a show out of how obviously it was so. It isn't, though. It seemed obvious to me that you must be unaware of "green taxes" being something even Conservative governments might enact, otherwise why label Macron's fuel tax "Socialist"?

If the politician creating the tax is not a Socialist, if the plan behind is not to create a Socialist society, then the tax is not Socialist either. I hope you can see the logic. I suggest you take your own (bolded) advice to heart, then. You have been presented with enough evidence that it would be illogical to keep painting his stated and enacted policies as "Socialist".

The tax is absolutely a socialist thing - it's going straight to the general fund to pay for the bloated government. Socialists always need to increase revenue because they're always buying up votes with gibs....and gibs cost $$$$....

[Zlaxer]

It's just like the soon-to-be tolls in CT....80 fucking tolls in CT....more than any other state.....why? Because the Marxists running the state are running out of money.