Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[GloryofGreece]

The people who scoff at my assertion that it is only a matter of time before the army takes over should consider what just happened in France.

All political power derives from the armed forces first, and law enforcement second. There is no militia in America any longer to serve as a counterbalance, and the closest thing you have to it (veterans) will side with the army for the most part.

This is why the founders were pretty big on the idea of a militia.

Too late now.

How do you personally define "militia" and is it fundamentally different than the National Guard b/c the Guard is operated primarily ultimately by the Federal and not State governments?

[Fife]

The Philadelphia conventioneers and their bosses weren't dummies. They all knew what took down the SPQR. All paid some lip service to the rational fear of a standing army in service of the federal city; some of them actually meant it.

[Montegriffo]

Protesters on the streets of Washington using violence to change policy and calling for the impeachment of the President = mob rule and an affront to democracy.

Protesters on the streets of Paris using violence to change policy and calling for the impeachment of the President = the will of the people and democracy in action.

I just can't take you guys seriously anymore.

3 people dead and millions of Euros worth of damage to private property and American Conservatives are cheering it on.

/shrug

[Speaker to Animals]

The people who scoff at my assertion that it is only a matter of time before the army takes over should consider what just happened in France.

All political power derives from the armed forces first, and law enforcement second. There is no militia in America any longer to serve as a counterbalance, and the closest thing you have to it (veterans) will side with the army for the most part.

This is why the founders were pretty big on the idea of a militia.

Too late now.

How do you personally define "militia" and is it fundamentally different than the National Guard b/c the Guard is operated primarily ultimately by the Federal and not State governments?

Militia was every male landowner in a town or village. Which was synonymous with voter under the original intent of American government.

The United States was originally predicated as a democracy of warriors. We are a long way from that now.

[DBTrek]

Protesters on the streets of Washington using violence to change policy and calling for the impeachment of the President = mob rule and an affront to democracy.

Protesters on the streets of Paris using violence to change policy and calling for the impeachment of the President = the will of the people and democracy in action.

I just can't take you guys seriously anymore.

3 people dead and millions of Euros worth of damage to private property and American Conservatives are cheering it on.

/shrug

American conservatives ain’t doing shit but taking sad note of another failed socialist state while brain dead Euros like yourself remain eternally oblivious to your own dead-end politics.
/shrug

[Montegriffo]

Failed socialist state

Just listen to yourself. You are being hysterical and are poorly informed.

An outright majority in France’s parliament for a movement founded just over a year ago is clearly a huge achievement. Emmanuel Macron’s fledgeling force has captured the imagination of the entire world following yet another exceptional election win on Sunday.

Those left stunned by the blitzkrieg-style success of La République en Marche! (LREM, or The Republic on the Move!) should not, however, overlook a development that is arguably of far greater significance: the sudden death of Socialist France. That 351 out of 577 MPs will now make up the Macron cohorts in the National Assembly is remarkable, but the fact that a Socialist Party (PS) that was in government until last month will have as few as 29 seats is absolutely astonishing.

Such figures mean that the party of François Mitterrand, the longest serving president in the history of the Fifth Republic, is now a relatively powerless minority. François Hollande, who began his career as an advisor to Mitterrand, was a PS head of state with a comfortable parliamentary majority but he did not dare seek re-election because he knew wipe-out was coming.

Both Hollande and Mitterrand once represented the triumph of the romantic left – one in which apparatchiks inspired by the class struggle and the excesses of capitalism were able to fight for social justice from within the Paris establishment, rather than from the street. The PS galvanised the immense revolutionary spirit of the French people and turned it into a formidable democratic unit. Now it is an anachronism that could only muster 6 per cent of the vote during the May presidential elections that saw Macron enter the Élysée Palace.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/em ... 96996.html

[DBTrek]

Failed socialist state

Just listen to yourself. You are being hysterical and are poorly informed.

On the contrary, you are a dim-witted pleb with no critical thinking skills. A lapdog, well trained to Google up factoids to self-pacify any remote urge to allow your mind to overcome the subjugation of your opressive dogma.

France riots every year. The rioting continues to get worse. They have been on the socialist path for a long, long time. So you’d have to be completely oblivious to reality to Isolate one year of LREM victory and claim “this is the problem, not socialism”.

Explain all the other years, genius. Explain how socialism survives without continuous tax increases, and how these riots aren’t over taxes critical to the continuing functioning of a socialist state.

Derp.

[GloryofGreece]

The people who scoff at my assertion that it is only a matter of time before the army takes over should consider what just happened in France.

All political power derives from the armed forces first, and law enforcement second. There is no militia in America any longer to serve as a counterbalance, and the closest thing you have to it (veterans) will side with the army for the most part.

This is why the founders were pretty big on the idea of a militia.

Too late now.

How do you personally define "militia" and is it fundamentally different than the National Guard b/c the Guard is operated primarily ultimately by the Federal and not State governments?

Militia was every male landowner in a town or village. Which was synonymous with voter under the original intent of American government.

The United States was originally predicated as a democracy of warriors. We are a long way from that now.

What if you didn't own any land not even the proverbial 10 acres? Where colonist still in the militia?

[DBTrek]

The militia was supposed to be our Army during peace time. If you read the Constitution, funding for a standing army must be approved every two years. The original idea was that the US would only gather a standing army in dire times of need, and the rest of the time armed citizens would be called up as needed to address whatever other issues arose (like rebellions, etc).

[Speaker to Animals]

If you voted, you were both a land owner (financial payer) and a legal member of the militia (warrior).

I am not sure how it worked in the cities, but that was pretty much just New York and Boston.