Connecticut

[Zlaxer]

The fuck?

We settled this land before your Puritan ancestors brought their husbands to New England, princess. You got some dates mixed up. LOL

Epic fail. It took a determined close-knit group of pious family groups with a work ethic that wouldn’t quit to successfully build a lasting culture that we all still honor today.

Goodie Milspecs has to go put her pumpkin pies in now.

When you are done in the kitchen, cupcake, Google a little something called Jamestown.

[MilSpecs]

The fuck?

We settled this land before your Puritan ancestors brought their husbands to New England, princess. You got some dates mixed up. LOL

Epic fail. It took a determined close-knit group of pious family groups with a work ethic that wouldn’t quit to successfully build a lasting culture that we all still honor today.

Goodie Milspecs has to go put her pumpkin pies in now.

When you are done in the kitchen, cupcake, Google a little something called Jamestown.

You mean the men who wouldn’t work or cooperate?

[Zlaxer]

You two can stop this - T-Day is going to be erased soon enough...

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11551

"There's definitely a racist history to Thanksgiving and that should probably definitely be addressed more in education," one student said. Another student told Campus Reform, "the whole concept with, like, taking land and assigning a value to it through cost is, like, it was different through European cultures."

"It doesn't have to be not celebrated, but if we can change it to instead of feeding ourselves maybe feeding the natives or donating to natives. Do we really need a giant feast?" one student opined.

If you think this is ridiculous - just remember that 40 yr old pervert men can legally use a women's room in several states.

[nmoore63]

My wife hates that people know her at the grocery store.

Sometimes she really just wants to grab her bullshit half and half in her pjs at 8:30am when the kids are screaming and not have people recognize her.

So I guess that big city has that.

[Speaker to Animals]

My wife hates that people know her at the grocery store.

Sometimes she really just wants to grab her bullshit half and half in her pjs at 8:30am when the kids are screaming and not have people recognize her.

So I guess that big city has that.

Not even that. You can have that in the suburbs, but in the city the neighborhoods are very insular. You wouldn't travel far to get groceries and everybody in the neighborhood sees everybody else all the time, so they at least know who you are (even if vaguely).

If she wants the completely anon feel, she would want to live out in the suburbs, commute into the city by train, and then work in the main business district. Then she will be a stranger, always.

[nmoore63]

My wife hates that people know her at the grocery store.

Sometimes she really just wants to grab her bullshit half and half in her pjs at 8:30am when the kids are screaming and not have people recognize her.

So I guess that big city has that.

Not even that. You can have that in the suburbs, but in the city the neighborhoods are very insular. You wouldn't travel far to get groceries and everybody in the neighborhood sees everybody else all the time, so they at least know who you are (even if vaguely).

If she wants the completely anon feel, she would want to live out in the suburbs, commute into the city by train, and then work in the main business district. Then she will be a stranger, always.

Oh she's mostly broken into small town life now... but still pre-coffee, bad kid mornings... not sure she's ever getting over that one.

[Montegriffo]

And yet tomorrow you will thank the Lord for us having given you this land. Yankees suck, pass the turkey.

The fuck?

We settled this land before your Puritan ancestors brought their husbands to New England, princess. You got some dates mixed up. LOL

Epic fail. It took a determined close-knit group of pious family groups with a work ethic that wouldn’t quit to successfully build a lasting culture that we all still honor today.

Goodie Milspecs has to go put her pumpkin pies in now.

Talking of pumpkin pie, the big supermarkets are selling tinned pumpkin now so I am going to try again.
I made it with butternut squash last year and the texture was no good.

[Fife]

Epic fail. It took a determined close-knit group of pious family groups with a work ethic that wouldn’t quit to successfully build a lasting culture that we all still honor today.

Goodie Milspecs has to go put her pumpkin pies in now.

When you are done in the kitchen, cupcake, Google a little something called Jamestown.

You mean the men who wouldn’t work or cooperate?

Some history might be of use to some of us.

Hot off the presses, just this morning, and on this topic:

The First Thanksgiving

Grab your cockle hat and buckle shoes. It's time to celebrate the first Thanksgiving with the Pilgrims. Or not, because they didn't celebrate the first Thanksgiving in North America.

But you won't hear that in any school across America. Little minds of mush are told about the Pilgrim holiday from Alaska to Florida, California to Massachusetts. I expect Massachusetts to push this message. After all, it makes them first in something even if they weren't first in much of anything, except perhaps self-righteous posturing.

The first Thanksgiving was held in Florida over fifty years before the Pilgrims celebrated their good fortune in 1621. This makes sense because the Spanish landed in Florida in the 16th century and had a permanent colony at St. Augustine in 1565. Outside of Florida, most Americans don't know about this Thanksgiving because it was a one-time event, and admittedly cannot be considered the origin of our current annual holiday.

We have to look a little further north for our first annual Thanksgiving celebration. In December 1619, a group of weary Englishmen landed in Virginia and celebrated a Thanksgiving feast at Berkeley Hundred. They pledged to do so annually and did until 1621 when most of the group was wiped out by the Powhattan.

Enter the Pilgrims. Whereas the Virginians had to face hostile tribes along with a hostile environment, the Pilgrims benefitted from the English speaking natives in their midst. The Pilgrims survived and so did their annual holiday.

Once the North won the War in 1865, the Northern version of American history became dominant. Susan-Mary Grant's North Over South traces this trend to before the War, but once the South was subjugated, Northern nationalism became American nationalism and thus the Northern-dominated American nation was born.

Northern "nationalism" had always been Northern sectionalism, and that included their myths, customs, and traditions.

Southerners pushed back in the late 19th century and tried to focus on the real origins of America. President John Tyler's son, Lyon Gardiner Tyler, did yeoman's work in this area in the early 20th century, but modern historians scoff at these people as little more than pro-Southern partisans interested in a "distortion" of "true" history. In short, they lied. Oh, and they were racists, so you can't believe anything they wrote.

If you can't refute what they said, call them names. Worked in Kindergarten.

The fact remains that these Southerners were on to something and our entire identity as "Americans" has been forged by a Northern conception of the American experience, including our holidays.

It is proper to give thanks for the bounty we have as Americans. Washington thought Americans should pause and give thanks during the harvest season. We just need to accurately remember which Americans started the trend.

[MilSpecs]

Talking of pumpkin pie, the big supermarkets are selling tinned pumpkin now so I am going to try again.
I made it with butternut squash last year and the texture was no good.

I remember you weren’t happy with them last year. Definitely the tinned pumpkin, and evaporated milk. It makes a difference.

[MilSpecs]

Some history might be of use to some of us.

Hot off the presses, just this morning, and on this topic:

The First Thanksgiving

Grab your cockle hat and buckle shoes. It's time to celebrate the first Thanksgiving with the Pilgrims. Or not, because they didn't celebrate the first Thanksgiving in North America.

But you won't hear that in any school across America. Little minds of mush are told about the Pilgrim holiday from Alaska to Florida, California to Massachusetts. I expect Massachusetts to push this message. After all, it makes them first in something even if they weren't first in much of anything, except perhaps self-righteous posturing.

The first Thanksgiving was held in Florida over fifty years before the Pilgrims celebrated their good fortune in 1621. This makes sense because the Spanish landed in Florida in the 16th century and had a permanent colony at St. Augustine in 1565. Outside of Florida, most Americans don't know about this Thanksgiving because it was a one-time event, and admittedly cannot be considered the origin of our current annual holiday.

We have to look a little further north for our first annual Thanksgiving celebration. In December 1619, a group of weary Englishmen landed in Virginia and celebrated a Thanksgiving feast at Berkeley Hundred. They pledged to do so annually and did until 1621 when most of the group was wiped out by the Powhattan.

Enter the Pilgrims. Whereas the Virginians had to face hostile tribes along with a hostile environment, the Pilgrims benefitted from the English speaking natives in their midst. The Pilgrims survived and so did their annual holiday.

Once the North won the War in 1865, the Northern version of American history became dominant. Susan-Mary Grant's North Over South traces this trend to before the War, but once the South was subjugated, Northern nationalism became American nationalism and thus the Northern-dominated American nation was born.

Northern "nationalism" had always been Northern sectionalism, and that included their myths, customs, and traditions.

Southerners pushed back in the late 19th century and tried to focus on the real origins of America. President John Tyler's son, Lyon Gardiner Tyler, did yeoman's work in this area in the early 20th century, but modern historians scoff at these people as little more than pro-Southern partisans interested in a "distortion" of "true" history. In short, they lied. Oh, and they were racists, so you can't believe anything they wrote.

If you can't refute what they said, call them names. Worked in Kindergarten.

The fact remains that these Southerners were on to something and our entire identity as "Americans" has been forged by a Northern conception of the American experience, including our holidays.

It is proper to give thanks for the bounty we have as Americans. Washington thought Americans should pause and give thanks during the harvest season. We just need to accurately remember which Americans started the trend.

Good try but fake news. Thanksgiving is the commemoration of Pilgrimfest.