I've seen that book cited a few times. I'll take a look and offer a response. Briefly, what makes it next level and harder to swallow? Church hierarchy hardly seems radical.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:14 amNext-level, and much harder, pill to swallow:Fife wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:59 amIt's not rocket science, it's just tough medicine. Hard to swallow pills for most honest people.
https://mises.org/library/democracy-god-failed-1
https://www.amazon.com/Liberty-God-That ... 1621380068
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Because they wanted a share. The answer is to head off corruption as much as possible so we don’t get to this point where the blatant theft at the top caused a cascading effect, not to entirely destroy the prosperity machine.Zlaxer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:22 amWho do you think the union members and pensioners vote for?MilSpecs wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:17 amYou’re sidestepping. You know as well as I do who’s getting most of the money, and it’s not the carpenters and laborers. The tristate area has always run on patronage with the lions share going to law enforcement, management, and corruption. When more people started demanding a share of the spoils, the system became unsustainable.
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MilSpecs wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:45 amBecause they wanted a share. The answer is to head off corruption as much as possible so we don’t get to this point where the blatant theft at the top caused a cascading effect, not to entirely destroy the prosperity machine.Zlaxer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:22 amWho do you think the union members and pensioners vote for?MilSpecs wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:17 amYou’re sidestepping. You know as well as I do who’s getting most of the money, and it’s not the carpenters and laborers. The tristate area has always run on patronage with the lions share going to law enforcement, management, and corruption. When more people started demanding a share of the spoils, the system became unsustainable.
And how do you think corrupt officials get elected?
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Yeah, I'll bet corruption is never a problem when power is inherited, and officials drawn from the thin pool of inbred relatives and whatnot.
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Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:55 amYeah, I'll bet corruption is never a problem when power is inherited, and officials drawn from the thin pool of inbred relatives and whatnot.
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Here you go Hanarachy - I'll keep it real simple for you....
Perhaps tyranny of king (which requires removal of a single individual) is less of a threat than the tyranny of Mob rule.
King results in a crap shoot every generation...but the cycles are longer...and bad kings can be killed....thus, which is more stable over the long run?
Not like anyone has ever debated this before.....
Perhaps tyranny of king (which requires removal of a single individual) is less of a threat than the tyranny of Mob rule.
King results in a crap shoot every generation...but the cycles are longer...and bad kings can be killed....thus, which is more stable over the long run?
Not like anyone has ever debated this before.....
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So give up? Ask a tyrant to solve it for you?Zlaxer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:50 am
And how do you think corrupt officials get elected?
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Has more to do with our conception of liberty as a self-evident good. Or what most people call "liberty", anyway. Seems to lead to tyranny in all cases.Fife wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:33 amI've seen that book cited a few times. I'll take a look and offer a response. Briefly, what makes it next level and harder to swallow? Church hierarchy hardly seems radical.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:14 amNext-level, and much harder, pill to swallow:Fife wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:59 amIt's not rocket science, it's just tough medicine. Hard to swallow pills for most honest people.
https://mises.org/library/democracy-god-failed-1
https://www.amazon.com/Liberty-God-That ... 1621380068
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I'll look at it.
"Liberty" =/= "Libertine," BTW.
The people we see prancing around naked and stoned at LP conventions are libertines. Not the same thing as a libertarian. Libertines believe in all sorts of SJW nonsense and all sorts of compelling others to behave in a certain way while they get high and fuck knot-holes.
The most important liberty, IMNSHO, is the natural right to earn an honest living without the involvement of the state.
EDIT: Dammit dude, no kindle version, so no free sample; and the paperback is $29. I may have to wait until I have time to scour the local libraries, unless you have a pdf available somewhere.
EDIT 2: I remember where I've seen it cited before now. This Chris Ferrara lawyer has had some pushback from at least one rather tame Catholic, and one rather untamed Austrian. https://tomwoods.com/on-chris-ferrara/
FWIW, I think you might like some of Woods' Catholic books (links in the piece I linked up there). He takes his faith VERY seriously.
"Liberty" =/= "Libertine," BTW.
The people we see prancing around naked and stoned at LP conventions are libertines. Not the same thing as a libertarian. Libertines believe in all sorts of SJW nonsense and all sorts of compelling others to behave in a certain way while they get high and fuck knot-holes.
The most important liberty, IMNSHO, is the natural right to earn an honest living without the involvement of the state.
EDIT: Dammit dude, no kindle version, so no free sample; and the paperback is $29. I may have to wait until I have time to scour the local libraries, unless you have a pdf available somewhere.
EDIT 2: I remember where I've seen it cited before now. This Chris Ferrara lawyer has had some pushback from at least one rather tame Catholic, and one rather untamed Austrian. https://tomwoods.com/on-chris-ferrara/
FWIW, I think you might like some of Woods' Catholic books (links in the piece I linked up there). He takes his faith VERY seriously.
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