Collectivism Poll

Collectiisim vs Individualism - What do you believe?

Poll ended at Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:05 am

It takes a village...
3
38%
the village is full of crooks and tyrants...
5
63%
 
Total votes: 8

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:11 pm

The Rugged Individualist will be the Ubermensch rising from the ashes of history to stop the wheel of time. The future will be a non collective society of Rugged Individualists once the dust settles.

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:14 pm

The Rugged Individualistmensch shall stand atop the mountain alone, covered in his own excrementscreaming at the descending sun as it engulfs the world in fire. The Individualistmensch eschews any lesser form in his grand pursuit to attain sublime Individualism.

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:35 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:04 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:52 pm
brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:02 pm

I think history is littered with allies who thought they were partners till they got dicked over. And then there's the partners who dick you over. So who's a rugged individualist to trust?
??? Is this justification to turn allies into partners? Liberty says no.
No, I think it's justification to shoot all the fucking lawyers who think that parsing the difference between words like this makes any sense to most people. Before lawyers a deal was a deal, and if someone thought you'd screwed them you'd get an axe in the head rather than a letter from their attorney. It was a fine incentive to deal fairly.
Dude, you don’t like liberty, we get it. Not to worry, liberty won’t last much longer.
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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:43 pm

Indivualistmensch regard liberty as a tawdry bauble for the collectivistmensch. The Individualistmensch cares not about law or moral, indeed his Cathedral is built of himself for himself and the mundane do not enter the door.

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by brewster » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:55 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:35 pm
brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:04 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:52 pm

??? Is this justification to turn allies into partners? Liberty says no.
No, I think it's justification to shoot all the fucking lawyers who think that parsing the difference between words like this makes any sense to most people. Before lawyers a deal was a deal, and if someone thought you'd screwed them you'd get an axe in the head rather than a letter from their attorney. It was a fine incentive to deal fairly.
Dude, you don’t like liberty, we get it. Not to worry, liberty won’t last much longer.
Since when did lawyers bring us liberty? They brought us con men like Trump who hired armies of them to make sure his "partners" always got left holding the bag of shit while skated with a fat wad.

What's your model? Where and when have people lived the "best" liberty saturated lives, I won't use the word society since that's collectivism and not freedom.
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:05 pm

The Individualistmensch was born on the high plains and in the mountains of a new frontier. He had already discarded society as a useless collectivistmensch ideal and set out to blaze Q path of righteous glory for TVUE Individualism. He did not conquer the Wilds for the benefit of Collectivistmensch, he did it for HIM and HIM alone. Indeed there is only the World of HIM, and no other!

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:17 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:55 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:35 pm
brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:04 pm

No, I think it's justification to shoot all the fucking lawyers who think that parsing the difference between words like this makes any sense to most people. Before lawyers a deal was a deal, and if someone thought you'd screwed them you'd get an axe in the head rather than a letter from their attorney. It was a fine incentive to deal fairly.
Dude, you don’t like liberty, we get it. Not to worry, liberty won’t last much longer.
Since when did lawyers bring us liberty? They brought us con men like Trump who hired armies of them to make sure his "partners" always got left holding the bag of shit while skated with a fat wad.

What's your model? Where and when have people lived the "best" liberty saturated lives, I won't use the word society since that's collectivism and not freedom.
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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:20 pm

The concepts of a Nation are those of the collectivistmensch. The Individualistmensch has no need for a Nation. The precepts infringe on his personal Liberty, if it is indeed possible to deprive the Individualistmensch of anything, for he truly forms the World with his grit stained hands and bends it to his Will.

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by brewster » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:32 pm

Wow, looks like these toys are broken. Norman, Coordinate!
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:40 pm

Liberty is a fragile thing, difficult to obtain and easy to lose. I’ve debated for it here a lot but only C-Mag and Hastur find it worth defending. The theists don’t like it, in fact they deny it exists, because they think everyone should be forced to share their morals; and the collectivists don’t like it because they are the losers in the meritocracy. America was lucky to get liberty in the first place but it was only maintained through indoctrination in the schools which obviously don’t any longer. It will be sad to see it go. Luckily, I was around to experience it.
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