The Myth of Birthright Citizenship

[Haumana]

The 14th Amendment applies to everyone. That is why I can call myself an American with a grandfather who was born in another country.

Did he come here legally and subject himself to the full jurisdiction of the United States government?

[Penner]

The 14th Amendment applies to everyone. That is why I can call myself an American with a grandfather who was born in another country.

Did he come here legally and subject himself to the full jurisdiction of the United States government?

Is by boat legal? I really don't know since we really didn't have the concept of "illegal" aliens until like the 1960s.

[TheReal_ND]

wow you are really dumb

[Haumana]

The 14th Amendment applies to everyone. That is why I can call myself an American with a grandfather who was born in another country.

Did he come here legally and subject himself to the full jurisdiction of the United States government?

Is by boat legal? I really don't know since we really didn't have the concept of "illegal" aliens until like the 1960s.

Did he go through Ellis Island or some other gateway and be processed by the government? I am guessing that he sure as shit didn't try to storm the southern border and ignore offers of asylum elsewhere. Nor did he mostly likely not sneak over here on a visa and plop a kid out to gain a foothold.

People were turned around and denied entry long before the 60's, btw.

[brewster]

dont cey when it takes a century or two before we become Canada regarding gun laws. You could tear out the seam trying to pluck a loose end on that one. Not going to happen. I give it at least two generations before any headway is made on that front.

You don't see me fighting that fight, the horse is out of the barn because there's more fucking guns than people! Best we can do is try and keep the crazies from buying them legally, and even that wouldn't have stopped your buddy in Pittsburgh. So go chase an argument somewhere else. My point is originalism is bullshit, and the Constitution means whatever the people in power want it to mean, from Scott to Brown to Roe to Heller.

The 4th amendment is pretty clear, yet it's crapped on by law enforcement in every little town in the union. It's probably the most endangered of the Bill of Rights because people who see themselves as law abiding see no reason to care about it until it's too late, so there's no constituency. But when there's a loud constituency for change, watch out! In most eras, it had to overcome the natural conservatism of legislators who knew that if they played hardball they'd be on the other end before long. But the McConnell era seems to have changed that with the motto: " don't ask whether we should, only whether we can". Remember, the only reason the filibuster was eliminated for judges by Dems was because McConnell would not let Obama appoint judges, and then eliminated for SCOTUS by the GOP. I think both were a bad idea.

My point again is elections have consequences, but so do the next elections, and the next. When you recklessly eliminate the moderating factors that keep our laws relatively stable and act like there's no reason not to use brute force, watch out.

[TheReal_ND]

Well yeah but you are the jew that revels in kritarchy. You are the ones that man half the scotus and the overwhelming majority of every court in the land. If there is another way than having to judicialize every single thing the voter mandate requires then I am all ears. Oh wait, let me guess, you dont actually want a voter mandate.

DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT NOW BEFORE THESE KIKES REPLACE YOU WITH SHITHOLERS

NOW NOW NOW

[brewster]

Well yeah but you are the jew that revels in kritarchy. You are the ones that man half the scotus and the overwhelming majority of every court in the land. If there is another way than having to judicialize every single thing the voter mandate requires then I am all ears. Oh wait, let me guess, you dont actually want a voter mandate.

DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT NOW BEFORE THESE KIKES REPLACE YOU WITH SHITHOLERS

NOW NOW NOW

I'm sorry, could you say that in English?

[TheReal_ND]

Well yeah but you are the jew that revels in kritarchy. You are the ones that man half the scotus and the overwhelming majority of every court in the land. If there is another way than having to judicialize every single thing the voter mandate requires then I am all ears. Oh wait, let me guess, you dont actually want a voter mandate.

DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT NOW BEFORE THESE KIKES REPLACE YOU WITH SHITHOLERS

NOW NOW NOW

I'm sorry, could you say that in English?

Sure. Learn something I guess. Kritarchy is a form of government where judges dictate the laws of the land, which is what we have. Judea had such a government. It basically means rule by criticism which is what Jews excel at. Jewish people typically have a high verbal IQ where they sit around and debate the Torah attempting to out jew God and who ever finds the most Talmudic way to do so usually has the most offspring.

My point is that your people are something of a pestilence to mine. You ceaselessly push for your own ends and never once look back which is why you keep getting kicked out of nations over and over again. You think it's because God is testing you but even Jesus was flogging you guys for being grifters. You are the synagogue satan. I mean what do you want? A reason for me to dislike your people after I constantly stick up for you while you guys shit all over me? There comes a point where I have to have some self respect.

[C-Mag]

Yes, the understanding of illegal immigrants has been around for over a hundred years. It is not a recent development...…………. and so what, by the same logic we'd have to 86 govt promoted abortion and feminism because they are relatively young as well.

Trump Can’t? Why Not? FDR Did
Long before Trump suggested mass deportation, a liberal icon allowed the very same thing

Under Roosevelt, however, a possibly larger effort to expel between 500,000 and 2 million Mexicans living in America — known as the Mexican Repatriation — was spearheaded by state and local authorities with the complicity of FDR.

https://www.lifezette.com/2015/11/trump ... t-fdr-did/

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