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TheAmericanNomad
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by TheAmericanNomad » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:52 am
clubgop wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:46 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:36 am
clubgop wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:20 am
Do you have any polling to cite for this assertion? Democrats had all the momentum and energy before this and as usual overplayed their hand now it's all but gone. And save it with the "I wont be", for those that don't remember or werent around AmericanNomad is one the original DCF undercover hack bitches.
Oh look at you clubgop. You are all grown up! You even write in complete sentences now, I am so proud of you. Good to see you, friend.
I was never a DNC supporter, even when I was at the DCF. Since I left, I only became more dissatisfied with them. I didn't vote for them even back then because I didn't buy into the whole "lesser of two evils" but I did, in my mind, root for them to win. That was simply because I did think of them as the lesser of two evils, even if I refused to vote for evil (lesser or otherwise).
Since that time, I have come to the conclusion that they are in many ways worse than the GOP. Simply because they pretend to be for peace and equality and whatnot, but they are really warmongers who fight against progressive movements while pretending to champion them. They are like the second Matrix movie: Controlled opposition. And nothing will get better until the party is crushed against the rocks. The fact that they are pushing Debbie Wasserman Schultz after she rigged the primary for Shillary shows how they really feel about progressive movements.
As for my assertion that the Democrats will win in November, I'm sure there are polls supporting my position, but as we both know, polls don't mean shit. The 2016 election proved that much. It is just more that I think the people who ultimately lost (pro-choice democrats) are likely to be stay pissed than the people who ultimately won (pro-life republicans). I could be wrong, of course. The Republicans are typically better at midterms, but the party not in control of the white house also typically does better during midterms. So we will just have to wait and see.
Not that it really matters all that much. Kavanaugh is confirmed and the pipedream of impeachment is a joke. And the Democrats don't push any policies of substance that the Republicans don't, so the election won't really matter unless the hope is for Trump to be impeached, but that will also come back to bite the democrats in the ass when it fails.
Good to see you never analyze in complete sentences, have you seen the Senate map? It was a hard ask even under a blue wave circumstance, now, forget about it. Heidi Heidtcamp is down by 12% in ND before voting against Kavanaugh. Nelson, Tester, Donnelly in dead hearts before voting against Kavanaugh. McCaskill was within the MoE before voting against Kavanaugh. Your 3rd grade political analyst is noted, a typical trait of an undercover hack.
You could be right. I don't really care all that much. The democrats aren't my side.
My side is a third side that has no chance of winning either chamber. The one thing this whole ordeal has done in my mind is that people are probably more likely to vote partisan because of it, and so either way, MY SIDE loses.
I am aware that the GOP base has been riled up by all this. But like I said, polls don't really matter these days. We will have to wait and see.
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Martin Hash
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by Martin Hash » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:54 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:48 am
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:39 am
When I say “loser,” I mean it with a Capital-L; people who have lost in The Patriarchy.
p.s. The Patriarchy = liberty, meritocracy & Nationalism
p.p.s. The Matriarchy = Collectivism, Equality & Globalism
But what constitutes success in either system?
If you are poor but have a great family and enjoy your job and have warm friends, is that not a success? If you are rich but your wife is cheating on you, your son hates you, you hate your boss and you have no friends, are you still a success?
What I am saying is that there are many measures of success, in any system. And being able to find someone to share your life with you, or at least enjoy your company, is at least as good of a measure as your bank account and arguably better. Meritocracy or no meritocracy.
Equating financial success with The Patriarchy, then finding that measure wanting, is a Straw Man. (Wealth isn’t even one of its core attributes, though it generates wealth.)
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TheAmericanNomad
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by TheAmericanNomad » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:59 am
clubgop wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:51 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:44 am
clubgop wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:32 am
Incel is the new boogeyman, these people dont exist. Why does AN know so much about these people if he isnt one? I am convinced incel is like terrorists group taken down by federal agencies. The leadership is undercover feds, membership is undercover local police, and the "true believers" are 1 or 2 individuals with an IQ below 80.
Nah they exist. They have huge community forums talking about Chads and Stacys and whatnot. I checked them out after the Van in Toronto. It was disturbing shit. Go ahead and check it out yourself. I haven't browsed their forums since that day but I assume not much has changed. I developed my opinion before the MSM could shape it for me, but in this case they weren't far off. Those dudes are crazy.
It makes sense to me that men constantly rejected by women, with full balls and no outlets for it besides rubber devices they buy online, would start to get frustrated and take that frustration out on the women who reject them.
I do assume their community has some undercover fake members though, especially after Toronto.
Typical millennial, "I saw it on the internet so it must true and on the up and up. They drain their balls all over the computer screen and willing dupes like you dutifully lick it up. It's the ultimate troll move.
Riiiiiiiight. So the CIA and FBI have made multiple forums of thousands people pretending to be mad about Stacy and Chads. Make this whole terminology. Spend their time making memes about Chads and everything else. And then they go out and create two false flag attacks, one in Canada for some reason, for what purpose?
But, anything the liberals do that make them look bad, yeah that's all legitimate, the CIA and FBI don't manufacture any of it.
Just go take a look for yourself man. It's not like its on the dark web. Google "incel forums" and decide for yourself. I don't really care.
Also, I remember when you used to claim the "clubgop" name was just something that stuck around from old forums, that you weren't really a GOP hack. Glad to see you finally came out of the republican closet.
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TheAmericanNomad
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by TheAmericanNomad » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:01 am
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:54 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:48 am
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:39 am
When I say “loser,” I mean it with a Capital-L; people who have lost in The Patriarchy.
p.s. The Patriarchy = liberty, meritocracy & Nationalism
p.p.s. The Matriarchy = Collectivism, Equality & Globalism
But what constitutes success in either system?
If you are poor but have a great family and enjoy your job and have warm friends, is that not a success? If you are rich but your wife is cheating on you, your son hates you, you hate your boss and you have no friends, are you still a success?
What I am saying is that there are many measures of success, in any system. And being able to find someone to share your life with you, or at least enjoy your company, is at least as good of a measure as your bank account and arguably better. Meritocracy or no meritocracy.
Equating financial success with The Patriarchy, then finding that measure wanting, is a Straw Man. (Wealth isn’t even one of its core attributes, though it generates wealth.)
I'm not trying to create a straw man. You said the democrats court losers. I'm asking you to give me the measure on which you are making that judgement and why incels can't be judged by their ability to attract a mate. That seems to me, to be as fair of a measure as any other. Money was the next most obvious one. If you have another measure, I am asking you to provide it.
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Martin Hash
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by Martin Hash » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:03 am
I’ve watched a few MGTOW YouTube videos. So what if rejected guys take their resentment out on women; fat cows do the same thing. BTW, that’s why there used to be arranged marriages, so this fucking overwhelming female power of selection couldn’t dominate society.
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clubgop
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by clubgop » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:03 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:52 am
clubgop wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:46 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:36 am
Oh look at you clubgop. You are all grown up! You even write in complete sentences now, I am so proud of you. Good to see you, friend.
I was never a DNC supporter, even when I was at the DCF. Since I left, I only became more dissatisfied with them. I didn't vote for them even back then because I didn't buy into the whole "lesser of two evils" but I did, in my mind, root for them to win. That was simply because I did think of them as the lesser of two evils, even if I refused to vote for evil (lesser or otherwise).
Since that time, I have come to the conclusion that they are in many ways worse than the GOP. Simply because they pretend to be for peace and equality and whatnot, but they are really warmongers who fight against progressive movements while pretending to champion them. They are like the second Matrix movie: Controlled opposition. And nothing will get better until the party is crushed against the rocks. The fact that they are pushing Debbie Wasserman Schultz after she rigged the primary for Shillary shows how they really feel about progressive movements.
As for my assertion that the Democrats will win in November, I'm sure there are polls supporting my position, but as we both know, polls don't mean shit. The 2016 election proved that much. It is just more that I think the people who ultimately lost (pro-choice democrats) are likely to be stay pissed than the people who ultimately won (pro-life republicans). I could be wrong, of course. The Republicans are typically better at midterms, but the party not in control of the white house also typically does better during midterms. So we will just have to wait and see.
Not that it really matters all that much. Kavanaugh is confirmed and the pipedream of impeachment is a joke. And the Democrats don't push any policies of substance that the Republicans don't, so the election won't really matter unless the hope is for Trump to be impeached, but that will also come back to bite the democrats in the ass when it fails.
Good to see you never analyze in complete sentences, have you seen the Senate map? It was a hard ask even under a blue wave circumstance, now, forget about it. Heidi Heidtcamp is down by 12% in ND before voting against Kavanaugh. Nelson, Tester, Donnelly in dead hearts before voting against Kavanaugh. McCaskill was within the MoE before voting against Kavanaugh. Your 3rd grade political analyst is noted, a typical trait of an undercover hack.
You could be right. I don't really care all that much. The democrats aren't my side.
My side is a third side that has no chance of winning either chamber. The one thing this whole ordeal has done in my mind is that people are probably more likely to vote partisan because of it, and so either way, MY SIDE loses.
I am aware that the GOP base has been riled up by all this. But like I said, polls don't really matter these days. We will have to wait and see.
That non committal bitch move ain't going to play, show me the path for dems to take the Senate.
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TheAmericanNomad
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by TheAmericanNomad » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:06 am
uh yeah, you're not the boss of me. I do what I want. I don't care if the dems take the Senate or not. Like I said, it's not my fight. Find some "I'm with her" dude to argue with, That ain't me babe.
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by Martin Hash » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:06 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:01 am
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:54 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:48 am
But what constitutes success in either system?
If you are poor but have a great family and enjoy your job and have warm friends, is that not a success? If you are rich but your wife is cheating on you, your son hates you, you hate your boss and you have no friends, are you still a success?
What I am saying is that there are many measures of success, in any system. And being able to find someone to share your life with you, or at least enjoy your company, is at least as good of a measure as your bank account and arguably better. Meritocracy or no meritocracy.
Equating financial success with The Patriarchy, then finding that measure wanting, is a Straw Man. (Wealth isn’t even one of its core attributes, though it generates wealth.)
I'm not trying to create a straw man. You said the democrats court losers. I'm asking you to give me the measure on which you are making that judgement and why incels can't be judged by their ability to attract a mate. That seems to me, to be as fair of a measure as any other. Money was the next most obvious one. If you have another measure, I am asking you to provide it.
You, for example, appear to be a Loser, and I’m getting that just from seeing you post for a couple days. List your accomplishments: wife, kids, career, travel, education, control over your life. If you are low in all those things then you are a Loser in The Patriarchy game and would be willing to kick it over.
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clubgop
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by clubgop » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:12 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:59 am
clubgop wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:51 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:44 am
Nah they exist. They have huge community forums talking about Chads and Stacys and whatnot. I checked them out after the Van in Toronto. It was disturbing shit. Go ahead and check it out yourself. I haven't browsed their forums since that day but I assume not much has changed. I developed my opinion before the MSM could shape it for me, but in this case they weren't far off. Those dudes are crazy.
It makes sense to me that men constantly rejected by women, with full balls and no outlets for it besides rubber devices they buy online, would start to get frustrated and take that frustration out on the women who reject them.
I do assume their community has some undercover fake members though, especially after Toronto.
Typical millennial, "I saw it on the internet so it must true and on the up and up. They drain their balls all over the computer screen and willing dupes like you dutifully lick it up. It's the ultimate troll move.
Riiiiiiiight. So the CIA and FBI have made multiple forums of thousands people pretending to be mad about Stacy and Chads. Make this whole terminology. Spend their time making memes about Chads and everything else. And then they go out and create two false flag attacks, one in Canada for some reason, for what purpose?
But, anything the liberals do that make them look bad, yeah that's all legitimate, the CIA and FBI don't manufacture any of it.
Just go take a look for yourself man. It's not like its on the dark web. Google "incel forums" and decide for yourself. I don't really care.
Also, I remember when you used to claim the "clubgop" name was just something that stuck around from old forums, that you weren't really a GOP hack. Glad to see you finally came out of the republican closet.
Ah wot? Who mentioned the CIA or FBI? Incels I am convinced are 75-80% troll. Advertising inability to get laid is a foreign concept to me and I admit I cant comprehend its existence. Are there a few individuals like that? Sure, but this large group I just ain't buying.
I still claim that the origins of clubgop is from childhood. GOP for cross streets of our playground hangout. I have always been an honest hack. I have never backed away from that. I was never in the closet. Keep trying to lie another bitch undercover hack move.
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clubgop
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by clubgop » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:13 am
TheAmericanNomad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:06 am
uh yeah, you're not the boss of me. I do what I want. I don't care if the dems take the Senate or not. Like I said, it's not my fight. Find some "I'm with her" dude to argue with, That ain't me babe.
I accept your concession.