The RNC are taking people who are tired of not being heard... The DNC, are taking those who should be in an asylum.

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Post by Martin Hash » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:48 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
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Degenerate == liberal
Need I say more. I'm a Liberal.
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Post by C-Mag » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:54 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:48 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:39 am
Degenerate == liberal
Need I say more. I'm a Liberal.
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Post by Martin Hash » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:12 am

Liberals are on the side of liberty, personal autonomy. As I have explained before, a "Liberal" believes in Jeffersonian Liberty, where people are responsible for their own actions, and are limited by the liberty of others. The Left believes in Marxist liberty, responsibility is shared by the group, and your liberty takes precedence over others outside the group.

Conservatives aren't much into liberty; either God said it or He didn't. (Or the King.) They often say liberty has some other meaning, or is simply a synonym for "freedom."

p.s. Some Conservatives go so far as to NOT believe in Free Will. We had this discussion the other day when I mentioned that the phrase "God is dead," alludes to the disavowal of that believe.
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Post by C-Mag » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:18 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:12 am
Liberals are on the side of liberty, personal autonomy. As I have explained before, a "Liberal" believes in Jeffersonian Liberty, where people are responsible for their own actions, and are limited by the liberty of others. The Left believes in Marxist liberty, responsibility is shared by the group, and your liberty takes precedence over others outside the group.

Conservatives aren't much into liberty; either God said it or He didn't. (Or the King.) They often say liberty has some other meaning, or is simply a synonym for "freedom."

p.s. Some Conservatives go so far as to NOT believe in Free Will. We had this discussion the other day when I mentioned that the phrase "God is dead," alludes to the disavowal of that believe.
I agree on all 3 counts.

I merely speak to common usage of the word today, which is wrong. People want to label me a conservative all the time, I'm not...………… I'm a Classic Liberal. That's why I dislike the Kavanaugh pick, but understand defeating by the presumption of guilt is far more dangerous.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:20 am

False narrative.

Liberals claim they side with liberty when they seek to normalize degeneracy as a moral good, but the outcome is ALWAYS the destruction of liberty. Gay marriage, for example.

Degeneracy is to liberty what cancer is to a human being.

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Post by Martin Hash » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:22 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:20 am
False narrative.

Liberals claim they side with liberty when they seek to normalize degeneracy as a moral good, but the outcome is ALWAYS the destruction of liberty. Gay marriage, for example.

Degeneracy is to liberty what cancer is to a human being.
This guy here wants to force his morals onto others, calling them degenerates if they don't capitulate. Whatever definition of "liberty" he has, it doesn't include personal autonomy, a typical Conservative position.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:22 am

When you make the claim that some moral evil is actually good, and you seek to codify that into law, you necessarily destroy liberty every time. Every last time. This lesson has been taught throughout history. Degeneracy has a compulsive nature in which, once spread, it seeks to drag the entire society down with it.

Trying to call that "liberty" is like one of those vegan twats on YouTube arguing cancer is the body's way of healing itself.

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Post by DBTrek » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:23 am

This is why Fife is too cool for labels. Everyone just makes their own shit up anyway, then tries to tell you what you are.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:24 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:22 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:20 am
False narrative.

Liberals claim they side with liberty when they seek to normalize degeneracy as a moral good, but the outcome is ALWAYS the destruction of liberty. Gay marriage, for example.

Degeneracy is to liberty what cancer is to a human being.
This guy here wants to force his morals onto others, calling them degenerates if they don't capitulate. Whatever definition of "liberty" he has, it doesn't include personal autonomy, a typical Conservative position.
Straw man. Nonsense.

I don't wish to force morals on to you. I simply seek to NOT normalize immoral and degenerate behavior. If you want to go fuck men in the ass and die from AIDS, then that's your business. You made it my business when you tried to legalize that as "marriage" and then the state used violence to force me to participate in your evil.

Liberals also project. I forgot that point. Thanks for illustrating. Liberals are the ones forcing their morals on everybody. For fuck sake.
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Post by Martin Hash » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:24 am

"Morals are the intention to turn something subjective into something objective." - me
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