Social Justice Warriors Thread

[Martin Hash]

I have a midterm election prank idea that would make you infamous.
Does that count as fame?

Can I climb back from it? I have no problem with infamy, like Sargon of Akkad is infamous, but no Richard Spencer infamy.

[heydaralon]

I have hired my "fans" in the past, that's not something I wish to repeat. My rule is that people have to help me out of belief, not benefit. So far, nada, but I'm holding to the rule. Frankly, I don't care if I get famous or not, my life is good; I just wanted to do more, and that's going to take fame. (I learned that in this forum, then I went out and proved it, then I came back here and accepted it.)

I'm not talking about hiring a fan on here, I'm talking about going to a marketing firm or a famous publicist and retaining their services to get you more visibility in the public eye. Have you tried that? Talking to a professional about this? I don't know how any of that works, but you have run for office, attained a wide array of degrees, ran a company, and published a few books. You are a millionaire. If you went and talked to a publicist, they would probably take you on as a client. Maybe they would even have a strategy to increase your podcast views etc. If you went to a publicist office and told them your plan, how do you think that would go down? Would that work?

[jediuser598]

Will you delete this account if I ask really nicely?

[DBTrek]

I have a midterm election prank idea that would make you infamous.
Does that count as fame?

Can I climb back from it? I have no problem with infamy, like Sargon of Akkad is infamous but no Richard Spencer infamy.

Uhhhhhh probably not.

Yellow face campaign signs.
Put on a vaguely Asian outfit, do the slant-eye thing, maybe a rice hat, and print up campaign signs urging people to:
Vote Phuc Yu in November.
Slip the signs among all the other ones you see around town, wait for media to catch on.

[Speaker to Animals]

I guess what I am trying to say here is this:

Fame in the context of ideas and philosophy is not necessarily a noble goal. Fame necessarily means appealing to the masses which necessitates sacrificing truth and originality for the sake of likes.

In the writing world, Stephen King is a famous writer who is arguably also a massive douchebag. But he is famous for writing to the common denominator. The tragedy here is that this motherfucker could write great works of literature if he wants to, but he doesn't. He chases fame (and money).

So you have to ask yourself a simple question: do you want fame, or do you want to put out original ideas that may or may not be popular (and thus you may or may not become famous)?

[Martin Hash]

I have hired my "fans" in the past, that's not something I wish to repeat. My rule is that people have to help me out of belief, not benefit. So far, nada, but I'm holding to the rule. Frankly, I don't care if I get famous or not, my life is good; I just wanted to do more, and that's going to take fame. (I learned that in this forum, then I went out and proved it, then I came back here and accepted it.)

I'm not talking about hiring a fan on here, I'm talking about going to a marketing firm or a famous publicist and retaining their services to get you more visibility in the public eye. Have you tried that? Talking to a professional about this? I don't know how any of that works, but you have run for office, attained a wide array of degrees, ran a company, and published a few books. You are a millionaire. If you went and talked to a publicist, they would probably take you on as a client. Maybe they would even have a strategy to increase your podcast views etc. If you went to a publicist office and told them your plan, how do you think that would go down? Would that work?

It's only a "win" in my book if it's organic though I'm certain that MANY famous people did just what you said.

I make goals for myself, something I can work on a little bit at a time. The goals are often artificial: how far can I go on a gallon of gas? How many trolls can I get nipping my heels? Can I write a whole book without ever starting a sentence with "but"? My Fame goal is to get famous. I'm not looking to make money but I am looking not to spend money; it's got to be organic, that's part of the goal.

[jediuser598]

Write truth, become famous after you die.

[Martin Hash]

Will you delete this account if I ask really nicely?

No, you're in posterity, baby. (I also harvest quotes from you.)

[Martin Hash]

Write truth, become famous after you die.

There's that chance. Much of what I run up against is negative base emotions which dead people do not engender.

[jediuser598]

I have hired my "fans" in the past, that's not something I wish to repeat. My rule is that people have to help me out of belief, not benefit. So far, nada, but I'm holding to the rule. Frankly, I don't care if I get famous or not, my life is good; I just wanted to do more, and that's going to take fame. (I learned that in this forum, then I went out and proved it, then I came back here and accepted it.)

I'm not talking about hiring a fan on here, I'm talking about going to a marketing firm or a famous publicist and retaining their services to get you more visibility in the public eye. Have you tried that? Talking to a professional about this? I don't know how any of that works, but you have run for office, attained a wide array of degrees, ran a company, and published a few books. You are a millionaire. If you went and talked to a publicist, they would probably take you on as a client. Maybe they would even have a strategy to increase your podcast views etc. If you went to a publicist office and told them your plan, how do you think that would go down? Would that work?

It's only a "win" in my book if it's organic though I'm certain that MANY famous people did just what you said.

I make goals for myself, something I can work on a little bit at a time. The goals are often artificial: how far can I go on a gallon of gas? How many trolls can I get nipping my heels? Can I write a whole book without every starting a sentence with "but"? My Fame goal is to get famous. I'm not looking to make money but I am looking not to spend money; it's got to be organic; that's part of the goal.

Do something people like.

Keep gathering fans by doing that thing they like until you reach famous.