C-Mag wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:57 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:45 pm
I absolutely support civil liberties. And I agree that the Constitution has been burnt and pissed on.
At this point, it just annoys me to watch "Freedom Defenders" and "Constitutionalists" go on about the 2nd, when 1) it's largely irrelevant, and 2) they already watched and even supported the rest of the Bill of Rights being destroyed, while still babbling about 'resisting tyranny'. It's just LARPing, now.
We passed the point 18 years ago where actual "Patriots" would have risen up and done something. They're only interested in their boomsticks, not even batting an eye at the important things flying by. It's a special interest group for gun manufacturers, nothing more.
I see it as much more significant. Very similar to 1770's America.
Americans stood by for the most part and watched Liberties be infringed. Speech was curtailed, protesting in the public square could get you shot, Americans allowed themselves to and their affects be searched by the Crowns Agents, the stood by while troops were quartered in their homes, while secret courts convicted them.
But what they did do was talk about it a lot, and decided on their red line. That was firearms. While Americans allowed all these other Liberties to be abused, when the Crown came for firearms they fought.
So I would ask you were those men Larping ? Or were they reinforcing their point that they will fight and die to keep their weapons ?
Good points.
But I don’t even see anyone talking about protecting/defending/resisting anything, other than “The Left”, and “gun grabbers”. If I did see it, I’d be much more optimistic.
As I’ve said many times, the gunmint isn’t coming for your guns. They don’t need to.
And would you really accept 1 surviving amendment out of 10, and be fine? Because that’s what all the rhetoric seems to add up to.
Also, when comparing to the Colonial era, one should remember that the taxman was likely to be shot, if he pissed somebody off. The level of control that the government has now is far beyond anything the founders could have envisioned from the Brits.
Spies in every home? They’d have a stroke.