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by Zlaxer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:47 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:44 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:39 am
Farmboy - do you think government social programs have room to spare at the moment?
Do you think inner city schools can take in millions of ESL students without drastically impacting the current students who are already failing for the most part?
So which is it? Education needs more money, or they're wasting it, and we should end the DOE?
They're wasting a good portion of it....but that does not mean that the waste will be stopped by letting in millions of ESLs....so, do you want Middle America to foot the bill? Is that what you want? Because that is what will happen...
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by Zlaxer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:48 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:45 am
If they show up with a clean record, and we can identify them... sure. No reason not to.
What if the demand for labor is in fact shrinking?
What if social services cannot take on millions of new clients unless taxes go way up?
Is it fair to make Middle America pay for the poor of other countries?
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:50 am
It should be obvious at this point that we need to divide this country up, drive out the zombies like him from our sectors, and isolate those people within their own sectors.
My humble suggestion remains as follows: spin off the large cities as semi-autonomous city states where globalists and faggot soyboys can live out their multicultural dreams. This is mainly an urban phenomenon anyway, so just spinning off the cities and establishing common sense border control around them would solve most of these problems.
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by Zlaxer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:51 am
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:50 am
It should be obvious at this point that we need to divide this country up, drive out the zombies like him from our sectors, and isolate those people within their own sectors.
My humble suggestion remains as follows: spin off the large cities as semi-autonomous city states where globalists and faggot soyboys can live out their multicultural dreams. This is mainly an urban phenomenon anyway, so just spinning off the cities and establishing common sense border control around them would solve most of these problems.
I prefer the India/Pakistan solution.....draw a line, give people a year or two to decide...than wall each other off.
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by Zlaxer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:55 am
@Farmboy and Penner
Is it fair to make Middle America pay for the poor of other countries?
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by Zlaxer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:00 am
He won't answer that one...
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:05 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:48 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:45 am
If they show up with a clean record, and we can identify them... sure. No reason not to.
What if the demand for labor is in fact shrinking?
What if social services cannot take on millions of new clients unless taxes go way up?
Is it fair to make Middle America pay for the poor of other countries?
Obviously not. But that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. These would be members of OUR country. And they aren't welfare cases.
You're making the argument that we can't accept more citizens, because our own welfare system is too fucked up, and will force us to support them. Change the welfare system then, if you don't like it.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:06 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:47 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:44 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:39 am
Farmboy - do you think government social programs have room to spare at the moment?
Do you think inner city schools can take in millions of ESL students without drastically impacting the current students who are already failing for the most part?
So which is it? Education needs more money, or they're wasting it, and we should end the DOE?
They're wasting a good portion of it....but that does not mean that the waste will be stopped by letting in millions of ESLs....so, do you want Middle America to foot the bill? Is that what you want? Because that is what will happen...
You think the education system would be bankrupted by paying for more school lunches? Wow you're grasping...
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:07 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:43 am
Someone else take this on - I'm about to stroke out...
Since you were never willing to consider the counter-argument, I'm not surprised that this is frustrating for you.
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by Zlaxer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:09 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:05 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:48 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:45 am
If they show up with a clean record, and we can identify them... sure. No reason not to.
What if the demand for labor is in fact shrinking?
What if social services cannot take on millions of new clients unless taxes go way up?
Is it fair to make Middle America pay for the poor of other countries?
Obviously not. But that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. These would be members of OUR country. And they aren't welfare cases.
They're not welfare class? So they're going to be above the poverty line the instant we grant them citizenship? And making the world's poor American Citizens is not the same as making the middle class pay for the world's poor because they're now citizens? That's your argument?
You're making the argument that we can't accept more citizens, because our own welfare system is too fucked up, and will force us to support them. Change the welfare system then, if you don't like it.
Change it how?