THE ERA OF TRUMP

[BjornP]

How well does taking more and more money away from something which isn't working turn out?

Doesn't. People who like to argue that public institutions don't work, and then declare that everything should instead be delegated to private actors, that public institutions can't - ever - work, seem to abide by the same logic as those who simply throw more money at the same problems: That it's the amount of money that's the main problem, that more money is the solution to the problem, or that no money instead is. Money poorly invested is money you might as well have thrown in the shitter. Doesn't mean investment itself is shit.

[Okeefenokee]

#BurnItDown

He was talking about commuting Blago's sentence. Blagojevich was sent to prison essentially for asking what he should get out appointing a senator. It's wrong, but there are murderers who spend less than 18 years in prison. A woman who raped a student just got like 18 months. The criminal justice system should be more reasonable about sentencing, else the people really will lose faith in it. Politically-motivated sentencing is an anathema to justice, no matter who gets railroaded.

I believe we can look to 40 years of “Tough On Crime” republican politics for that one. Built up a lovely Prison Industrial Complex from it.

You're such a democrat.

The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, H.R. 3355, Pub.L. 103–322 is an Act of Congress dealing with crime and law enforcement; it became law in 1994. It is the largest crime bill in the history of the United States and consisted of 356 pages that provided for 100,000 new police officers, $9.7 billion in funding for prisons and $6.1 billion in funding for prevention programs, which were designed with significant input from experienced police officers.[1] Sponsored by Representative Jack Brooks of Texas, the bill was originally written by Senator Joe Biden of Delaware and then was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

[SuburbanFarmer]

He was talking about commuting Blago's sentence. Blagojevich was sent to prison essentially for asking what he should get out appointing a senator. It's wrong, but there are murderers who spend less than 18 years in prison. A woman who raped a student just got like 18 months. The criminal justice system should be more reasonable about sentencing, else the people really will lose faith in it. Politically-motivated sentencing is an anathema to justice, no matter who gets railroaded.

I believe we can look to 40 years of “Tough On Crime” republican politics for that one. Built up a lovely Prison Industrial Complex from it.

You're such a democrat.

The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, H.R. 3355, Pub.L. 103–322 is an Act of Congress dealing with crime and law enforcement; it became law in 1994. It is the largest crime bill in the history of the United States and consisted of 356 pages that provided for 100,000 new police officers, $9.7 billion in funding for prisons and $6.1 billion in funding for prevention programs, which were designed with significant input from experienced police officers.[1] Sponsored by Representative Jack Brooks of Texas, the bill was originally written by Senator Joe Biden of Delaware and then was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

I remember Clinton using the line, too. But we both know where it started, and how it's been perpetuated through every level of politics.

[nmoore63]

Get caught selling a senate seat left by new president. Get pardoned by next president.

Swamp levels are not falling.

#BurnItDown

He was talking about commuting Blago's sentence. Blagojevich was sent to prison essentially for asking what he should get out appointing a senator. It's wrong, but there are murderers who spend less than 18 years in prison. A woman who raped a student just got like 18 months. The criminal justice system should be more reasonable about sentencing, else the people really will lose faith in it. Politically-motivated sentencing is an anathema to justice, no matter who gets railroaded.

The dude is guilty of crimes undermining the very fabric of the rule of law.

String him up.

[Speaker to Animals]

#BurnItDown

He was talking about commuting Blago's sentence. Blagojevich was sent to prison essentially for asking what he should get out appointing a senator. It's wrong, but there are murderers who spend less than 18 years in prison. A woman who raped a student just got like 18 months. The criminal justice system should be more reasonable about sentencing, else the people really will lose faith in it. Politically-motivated sentencing is an anathema to justice, no matter who gets railroaded.

The dude is guilty of crimes undermining the very fabric of the rule of law.

String him up.

He is guilty literally of asking "what do I get out of it?"

Which is bad. But 18 years? Get out of here. Even if he actually managed to sell the seat he wouldn't have deserved 18 years.

[SuburbanFarmer]

He was talking about commuting Blago's sentence. Blagojevich was sent to prison essentially for asking what he should get out appointing a senator. It's wrong, but there are murderers who spend less than 18 years in prison. A woman who raped a student just got like 18 months. The criminal justice system should be more reasonable about sentencing, else the people really will lose faith in it. Politically-motivated sentencing is an anathema to justice, no matter who gets railroaded.

The dude is guilty of crimes undermining the very fabric of the rule of law.

String him up.

He is guilty literally of asking "what do I get out of it?"

Which is bad. But 18 years? Get out of here. Even if he actually managed to sell the seat he wouldn't have deserved 18 years.

Enabling the direct hijacking of our government - even a 100th of it - has a much greater impact than the murder of a single person. The sentence should be maximized, honestly.

[Speaker to Animals]

The dude is guilty of crimes undermining the very fabric of the rule of law.

String him up.

He is guilty literally of asking "what do I get out of it?"

Which is bad. But 18 years? Get out of here. Even if he actually managed to sell the seat he wouldn't have deserved 18 years.

Enabling the direct hijacking of our government - even a 100th of it - has a much greater impact than the murder of a single person. The sentence should be maximized, honestly.

18 years, dude?

You can get shit-faced drunk and kill a kindergartner crossing the street in a DUI and not get 18 years.

The whole thing has to be consistent. You can't have females getting away with 18 months for raping a boy and then some politician getting 18 years for asking what he might get out of an appointment. It's ridiculous to even defend that.

[DBTrek]

How well does taking more and more money away from something which isn't working turn out?

It works out FANTASTIC from a “not wasting money on shit that doesn’t work” aspect.

Pretty shit at providing essential services though.

Essential services that aren’t working are simply siphoning resources away from systems that ARE working. You really don’t understand how silly your statement sounds, eh?

“How does taking money away from things that don’t work turn out?”

Turns out great. Frees up resources for things that do work.
Derp

[SuburbanFarmer]

He is guilty literally of asking "what do I get out of it?"

Which is bad. But 18 years? Get out of here. Even if he actually managed to sell the seat he wouldn't have deserved 18 years.

Enabling the direct hijacking of our government - even a 100th of it - has a much greater impact than the murder of a single person. The sentence should be maximized, honestly.

18 years, dude?

You can get shit-faced drunk and kill a kindergartner crossing the street in a DUI and not get 18 years.

The whole thing has to be consistent. You can't have females getting away with 18 months for raping a boy and then some politician getting 18 years for asking what he might get out of an appointment. It's ridiculous to even defend that.

Not really. From a utilitarian standpoint, the power of a senator is exponentially greater than that of any other citizen. Destroying the integrity of that seat, and enabling a rich patron to directly override the wishes of the electorate is exponentially more harmful than killing any single citizen.

The sentence should be exponentially greater.

[DBTrek]

The sentence should be exponentially greater.