Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by nmoore63 » Tue May 29, 2018 5:11 pm

BjornP wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 2:23 pm
nmoore63 wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 2:09 pm
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/fore ... oup-italy/

Umm Italy?
Not a coup, just Italian politics as it's been for decades. Their president, who is not elected by the people, but by parliament, has the right to forbid a party or individual from forming a democratically elected government if they think it poses a serious risk to the country. Some sort of leftover from the anti-Fascist laws they enacted after the fall of Mussolini, according to what they're been saying on the radio. Result is that Italians simply need to wait even more time for a government to form, and the idiot president of Italy is sure to rile up even more populist support. Complete clown show. Still, the EU is vastly overreaching, and fortunately more and more on the center, and center-right are opening their eyes to this.
How in the world would that even be effective?
I mean assuming you actually want a honest election... refusing to honor the election and then just having another one is only going to embolden those people...

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by nmoore63 » Tue May 29, 2018 5:13 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 2:45 pm

His attempts to film defendants on that occasion could, the judge said, have "prejudiced" the jury, leading to an unfair verdict - and he was warned he'd go to jail if he did anything remotely similar again.

Why couldn't we initially report Robinson's arrest and jailing? Reporting restrictions are a long-standing part of the British legal system. In this case, the judge ordered a temporary media black-out because he feared reporting Robinson's conviction could influence the jury in the very case Robinson was targeting.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Viktorthepirate » Tue May 29, 2018 5:35 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:13 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 2:45 pm

His attempts to film defendants on that occasion could, the judge said, have "prejudiced" the jury, leading to an unfair verdict - and he was warned he'd go to jail if he did anything remotely similar again.

Why couldn't we initially report Robinson's arrest and jailing? Reporting restrictions are a long-standing part of the British legal system. In this case, the judge ordered a temporary media black-out because he feared reporting Robinson's conviction could influence the jury in the very case Robinson was targeting.
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Fucking wow...

Future of Britain is a boot stepping on a face forever eh?

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue May 29, 2018 5:50 pm

One wonders if the word sequestor remains in the American dictionary, but was removed as archaic from the British dictionary..

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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue May 29, 2018 7:16 pm

Otern wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 3:59 am
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44289404

Turns out mass shootings can still happen, even with strict gun control, AND armed police.
The man's motive is not yet clear but the incident is being treated as terrorism.

Police sources quoted in local media said the man was heard shouting "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest" in Arabic).
This is sad.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue May 29, 2018 7:17 pm

We may never know.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue May 29, 2018 8:45 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Wed May 30, 2018 12:49 am

Viktorthepirate wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:35 pm
nmoore63 wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:13 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 2:45 pm

His attempts to film defendants on that occasion could, the judge said, have "prejudiced" the jury, leading to an unfair verdict - and he was warned he'd go to jail if he did anything remotely similar again.

Why couldn't we initially report Robinson's arrest and jailing? Reporting restrictions are a long-standing part of the British legal system. In this case, the judge ordered a temporary media black-out because he feared reporting Robinson's conviction could influence the jury in the very case Robinson was targeting.
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Fucking wow...

Future of Britain is a boot stepping on a face forever eh?
Ok. So we let violent thugs stand outside court buildings intimidating participants?
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Otern » Wed May 30, 2018 12:53 am

Did Tommy Robinson break the law? He did film one of the defendants leaving a car and entering the court house. And he did verbally confront him of the crimes he's accused of. If that's illegal and contempt of court, sure, he broke the law. But that's not what he was arrested for, and it's not this incident that got him convicted for contempt of the court.

He was on a suspended sentence for contempt of the court one year ago. This is more clear cut. He brought a camera inside a court house, and filmed illegally. And it's this sentence being enforced when he was arrested now.

But, he was not arrested for contempt of court a few days ago. He was being jailed for contempt of court that happened last year, but he was arrested for disorderly conduct a few days ago. Not sentenced for disorderly conduct. And this is what's problematic. Because it's enough to simply be arrested, not necessarily guilty, to change the suspended sentence to actual prison time.

It should matter if he actually were guilty of disorderly conduct or not, but according to the law, it doesn't matter when you're on a suspended sentence. If anything, this shows a weakness in the British justice system.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed May 30, 2018 1:33 am

Monty's just a liar who gets off on seeing people brought to heel.

He pretends like he's coming down on the side of law and order, but that's complete horseshit.

If he was really what he's pretending to be, he wouldn't be pirating public television on an unlicensed tv.

If he was really what he's pretending to be, he wouldn't be excusing his government's decades long cover-up of thousands of rapes of young girls on inadequate funding while staring right in the face of the same government arresting people in the night for offensive tweets.

It doesn't matter how many times you slap down his horseshit defenses of what is being condemned, he'll just make up something else, because one lie is as good as another for a liar.

He calls it all a false conspiracy theory, so you prove it happened.

He abandons that, and says it wasn't a cover-up, so you prove it was.

He abandons that, and says it was just a lack of funding, so you prove that it wasn't.

On and on. One lie after another.

Next he'll go back to where he ended up last time and say all those girls were asking for it.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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