Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:We aren't talking about all illegal immigrants, or I'm not, at least.
We are talking about DACA candidates who will, ideally, not be lettuce pickers.
I am not for open borders either. The wall is just a border-totem as far as I am concerned, but fetishists are going to fetish no matter what, so build away.
That's your problem - you're playing games - can't have an honest conversation - DACA's are illegal - that's why they want DACA - but you know this - yet you still play these games...and expect people to be fooled by it, or maybe you just don't see it.
Not all DACAs are going to be productive - I would venture most of them won't - shit, most citizens aren't productive.....yet your asking the tax payer to carry more water.....where's the hard evidence? all I see is maybes and feelz....not convincing.
@Monty - if there's hard evidence that illegals (at the present moment) are an economic net loss to the average tax payer (middle America)....and no evidence of them being a net gain to the tax payer....and if the Middle class is vanishing....then:
1) do you not think DACA will incentivize more illegals to come?
2) If more come, will that not hasten the destruction of the middle class?
3) How is this fair to the middle class? -
4) do you think its responsibiilty of the middle class to provide for DACAs, and if so, why?
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:We aren't talking about all illegal immigrants, or I'm not, at least.
We are talking about DACA candidates who will, ideally, not be lettuce pickers.
I am not for open borders either. The wall is just a border-totem as far as I am concerned, but fetishists are going to fetish no matter what, so build away.
That's your problem - you're playing games - can't have an honest conversation - DACA's are illegal - that's why they want DACA - but you know this - yet you still play these games...and expect people to be fooled by it, or maybe you just don't see it.
Not all DACAs are going to be productive - I would venture most of them won't - shit, most citizens aren't productive.....yet your asking the tax payer to carry more water.....where's the hard evidence? all I see is maybes and feelz....not convincing.
Like I said in the beginning of the thread, there are issues of jurisprudence when it comes to DACA candidates that have nothing to do with feels. They still haven't really been addressed by anyone.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:We aren't talking about all illegal immigrants, or I'm not, at least.
We are talking about DACA candidates who will, ideally, not be lettuce pickers.
I am not for open borders either. The wall is just a border-totem as far as I am concerned, but fetishists are going to fetish no matter what, so build away.
That's your problem - you're playing games - can't have an honest conversation - DACA's are illegal - that's why they want DACA - but you know this - yet you still play these games...and expect people to be fooled by it, or maybe you just don't see it.
Not all DACAs are going to be productive - I would venture most of them won't - shit, most citizens aren't productive.....yet your asking the tax payer to carry more water.....where's the hard evidence? all I see is maybes and feelz....not convincing.
Like I said in the beginning of the thread, there are issues of jurisprudence when it comes to DACA candidates that have nothing to do with feels. They still haven't really been addressed by anyone.
You going to answer my questions? And the law seems pretty clear to me - the DACAs are not citizens.
