Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

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Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by kybkh » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:53 am

Single or Critical point of failure
A single point of failure is a part of a system that, if it fails, will stop the entire system from working. SPOFs are undesirable in any system with a goal of high availability or reliability, be it a business practice, software application, or other industrial system.

Last night Rachael Maddow lined up all her talking points that "prove" "collusion".

The whole narrative relies on one "FACT": That the Russians hacked the DNC and delivered the hacked documents to Wikileaks.

***At 9:06 she states "Russia, we now know stole documents from DNC and Clinton Campaign" (does not say how that is known because if you were to tell someone that the only way we know that is from the testimony of a paid for DNC contractor, red flags would raise to most reasonable individuals)

At 9:30 she claims Trump called for Russia's help in his famous "If you find the 30k missing emails" speech. (here she is purposely conflating the two "hacks"). I only mention this because anyone can see this misleading reporting IRL but (((they))) don't seem to care because all they need to do is hold their ground and wait for more immigrants.

Back to the CFP, she spent an entire 20 minutes telling a narrative based on the sole assumption that Russia hacked DNC. A fact which can never be known because the neither the FBI nor any other independent law enforcement agency examined the DNC servers.

That is really all you need to know.


Starts at approx 6:30
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Re: Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by kybkh » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:56 am

Any other CFPs?

Looks like this one might be developing...
The FBI’s interview with Carter Page in March 2016 is one of the seminal events of the Trump-Russia probe. Democrats have long pointed to it as evidence of the bureau’s longstanding fears that Page might be a Russian spy and to downplay the role of the Clinton-financed dossier compiled by ex-British spy Christopher Steele in securing a FISA surveillance warrant against Page...But new information challenges that account. In an interview with RealClearInvestigations, Page insists that the interview in question – held at then-U.S. attorney Preet Bharara's office in New York -- had "absolutely nothing" to do with the Trump campaign or Russian collusion. Instead of being grilled about shadowy ties, he says he answered questions “related to events in 2013, in a case where I had served as a witness in support of the FBI.”

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com ... scout.html
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Re: Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:32 am

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I'm not going to sit here and be lectured by this faggot or that young boy on the show. Yes, it's TRUE. We colluded with Trump and Putler to steal the election. And we would have got away with it too if it wasn't for you pesky kids.

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Re: Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by pineapplemike » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:11 am

if hillary clinton had obeyed classification protocol her campaign's other private email communications were innocuous, russia would have had nothing to reveal by hacking their email in the first place. the premise that russia influenced the vote by revealing damaging information requires that there be damaging information

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Re: Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by ooky » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:30 pm

Rachel Maddow is crap, TBH.

And it is not just Fusion GPS saying this. It is the Dept of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joi ... r-national
The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

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Re: Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by ooky » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:32 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:11 am
if hillary clinton had obeyed classification protocol her campaign's other private email communications were innocuous, russia would have had nothing to reveal by hacking their email in the first place. the premise that russia influenced the vote by revealing damaging information requires that there be damaging information
So are you ready to lock Trump up yet for the way he uses unsecured devices? And his administration's lax email policies?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/us/p ... annon.html
At least six of President Trump’s closest advisers occasionally used private email addresses to discuss White House matters, current and former officials said on Monday.

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Re: Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:33 pm

Trump

Using email

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Re: Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by pineapplemike » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm

ooky wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:32 pm
pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:11 am
if hillary clinton had obeyed classification protocol her campaign's other private email communications were innocuous, russia would have had nothing to reveal by hacking their email in the first place. the premise that russia influenced the vote by revealing damaging information requires that there be damaging information
So are you ready to lock Trump up yet for the way he uses unsecured devices? And his administration's lax email policies?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/us/p ... annon.html
At least six of President Trump’s closest advisers occasionally used private email addresses to discuss White House matters, current and former officials said on Monday.
fair point if private email accounts were the same as private email servers, but mostly it probably depends on whether or not classified information was sent and/or stored offsite. i haven't heard that allegation against the trump administration, but i'm open to reading about it. from your article:
While the private email accounts spurred accusations of hypocrisy from Democrats, there are differences. Mrs. Clinton stored classified information on a private server, and she exclusively used a private account for her government work, sending or receiving tens of thousands of emails. The content and frequency of the Trump advisers’ emails remain unknown, but Trump administration officials described the use of personal accounts as sporadic. The emails have not been made public.
i'd love to take a peek behind the curtain and read trump's emails, just like i did with hillary's

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Re: Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:05 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm
ooky wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:32 pm
pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:11 am
if hillary clinton had obeyed classification protocol her campaign's other private email communications were innocuous, russia would have had nothing to reveal by hacking their email in the first place. the premise that russia influenced the vote by revealing damaging information requires that there be damaging information
So are you ready to lock Trump up yet for the way he uses unsecured devices? And his administration's lax email policies?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/us/p ... annon.html
At least six of President Trump’s closest advisers occasionally used private email addresses to discuss White House matters, current and former officials said on Monday.
fair point if private email accounts were the same as private email servers, but mostly it probably depends on whether or not classified information was sent and/or stored offsite. i haven't heard that allegation against the trump administration, but i'm open to reading about it. from your article:
While the private email accounts spurred accusations of hypocrisy from Democrats, there are differences. Mrs. Clinton stored classified information on a private server, and she exclusively used a private account for her government work, sending or receiving tens of thousands of emails. The content and frequency of the Trump advisers’ emails remain unknown, but Trump administration officials described the use of personal accounts as sporadic. The emails have not been made public.
i'd love to take a peek behind the curtain and read trump's emails, just like i did with hillary's
Well, you'd think Hillary would have gotten ahold of them when she was buying dirt on Trump from Russian spies.

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Re: Critical Failure Points for Trump Collusion Theory

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:50 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:11 am
if hillary clinton had obeyed classification protocol her campaign's other private email communications were innocuous, russia would have had nothing to reveal by hacking their email in the first place. the premise that russia influenced the vote by revealing damaging information requires that there be damaging information
If it's about her campaign email, why has neither the FBI or Mueller team subpoened the DNC servers ?

That's where the evidence of who hacked them would be, right.
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