Should the rest of Europe follow suit?

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Should the rest of Europe follow suit?

Post by GloryofGreece » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:09 pm

Family friendly policies. Watch the demographics change.


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Re: Should the rest of Europe follow suit?

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:12 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:09 pm
Family friendly policies. Watch the demographics change.


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Re: Should the rest of Europe follow suit?

Post by GloryofGreece » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:55 pm

Im in my 30s bro. the site is a fair place to get "news"/

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Re: Should the rest of Europe follow suit?

Post by Otern » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:50 am

Attempts to improve and decrease birth rates in a society has been tried before, and the results have rarely been positive.

Maybe Hungary has cracked the code, but I think it's more likely other areas of the society have more impact. Of course policy will affect birth rates, but rarely in a direct manner, and you're not going to see results fast.

They're definitely on to something though. I think the declining native birth rate in all of western Europe is a huge problem. (And no, not because we'll turn into Eurabia or some shit like that). But a birth rate below 2, combined with the free market demand of ever increasing growth, means there's the necessity for immigration. And the immigrants come from countries with the opposite problem, but it's even more of a problem there, as they're simply getting too many. And by importing people from these cultures, the cultures aren't incentivized to lower their birth rates either. Because if you have enough children, one of them might be able to get to Europe, and then you'll be set for life, rather than having few children, and making sure they get the best educational opportunities.

If Europe do nothing to stabilize birth rates at neutral, or slowing down the decline, we'll be in demand for immigrants. And by proxy, we'll be incentivized to keep other countries poor, with a low level of education for women, and destabilized, to support our demand for workers. Simply, they need to stay poor, so we can continue growing.

Birth rates need to be lowered on a global scale, because of environmental issues. But to do that, we'd need to do a lot that would be against the free market ideology. We can't expect to eternal growth in economy, and keep consuming more and more, and then expect the third world to follow suit, without disastrous effects on the environment. We're living through a mass extinction event, very likely caused, or at least strongly influenced by human activity. And the world population need to stabilize its growth soon, or there may be extreme consequences of the lack of biodiversity.