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Post by de officiis » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:52 am

It's bad enough when our own government uses them...now this?

US suspects cellphone spying devices in DC
For the first time, the U.S. government has publicly acknowledged the existence in Washington of what appear to be rogue devices that foreign spies and criminals could be using to track individual cellphones and intercept calls and messages.

The use of what are known as cellphone-site simulators by foreign powers has long been a concern, but American intelligence and law enforcement agencies — which use such eavesdropping equipment themselves — have been silent on the issue until now.

In a March 26 letter to Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden, the Department of Homeland Security acknowledged that last year it identified suspected unauthorized cell-site simulators in the nation’s capital. ...

The agency’s response, obtained by The Associated Press from Wyden’s office, suggests little has been done about such equipment, known popularly as Stingrays .... The Federal Communications Commission, which regulates the nation’s airwaves, formed a task force on the subject four years ago, but it never produced a report and no longer meets regularly.

The devices work by tricking mobile devices into locking onto them instead of legitimate cell towers, revealing the exact location of a particular cellphone. More sophisticated versions can eavesdrop on calls by forcing phones to step down to older, unencrypted 2G wireless technology. Some attempt to plant malware.
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Thousands of members of the military, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI and the rest of the national-security apparatus live and work in the Washington area. The surveillance-savvy among them encrypt their phone and data communications and employ electronic countermeasures. But unsuspecting citizens could fall prey.

Wyden, a Democrat, wrote DHS in November requesting information about unauthorized use of the cell-site simulators.

The reply from DHS official Christopher Krebs noted that DHS had observed “anomalous activity” consistent with Stingrays in the Washington area. A DHS official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the letter has not been publicly released added that the devices were detected in a 90-day trial that began in January 2017 ....

...DHS lacks the equipment and funding to detect Stingrays even though their use by foreign governments “may threaten U.S. national and economic security.”
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Re: Stingrays

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:55 am

We can detect them, though, and also locate ybyem pretty easily. The wireless provider will freak the fuck out about something like this and demand the government shut them down.

This seems like hype.

You guys would be surprised at how much national security work goes into wireless networks.

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Re: Stingrays

Post by C-Mag » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:57 am

I think they've found rogue cell towers. Towers that were erected to spy on the east coast by foreign powers. Hey, who would think another Cell tower is suspicious ?
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Re: Stingrays

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:02 pm

Super easy to detect from the site controller.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:03 pm

It's almost like walking around with an unsecured radio transmitter, would be a security issue... :lol:
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:04 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:It's almost like walking around with an unsecured radio transmitter, would be a security issue... :lol:

Like how?

Does Russia want to know what I am posting on MHF? That's public domain anyway. Do they want to know which single mom I am banging? Okay. Whatever.

Maybe they can log in and update my shipments in Hade's Star while they are doing their thing.
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Re: Stingrays

Post by nmoore63 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:05 pm

The degree to which the government has hidden these from court room discovery should have sent people prison.

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Re: Stingrays

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:16 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:It's almost like walking around with an unsecured radio transmitter, would be a security issue... :lol:

Like how?

Does Russia want to know what I am posting on MHF? That's public domain anyway. Do they want to know which single mom I am banging? Okay. Whatever.

Maybe they can log in and update my shipments in Hade's Star while they are doing their thing.
I'm pretty sure they're more interested in tracking what the local senators/representatives are talking about.
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