Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

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Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Fife » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:57 am

There was another school shooting this week, in Dalton GA. Don't feel bad if you haven't heard much, or anything, about it. The facts of that story are ALL wrong for our great national conversation.

Georgia teacher arrested after firing gun in school, police say
(CNN)A north Georgia high school teacher was arrested on Wednesday after he barricaded himself in a classroom and fired a shot from his handgun out of a window, police said.

No one was injured in the incident at Dalton High School, except for a female student who injured an ankle running through the school, police spokesman Bruce Frazier said.
The shooting about 85 miles north of Atlanta heightened the already tense debate around guns in schools in the wake of the deadly mass shooting in Parkland, Florida, two weeks ago.
Cops: Teacher in custody after barricading self in classroom with gun, firing shot
DALTON, Ga. -- A teacher is in custody after police say he barricaded himself inside a classroom at a high school in northwest Georgia Wednesday and fired a shot.

The situation at Dalton High School in Dalton began around 11:30 a.m. when the social studies teacher, identified by police as Jesse Randal Davidson, 53, blocked students from entering his class, school principal Steve Bartoo told reporters.

Bartoo said he and an assistant principal helped get the students into another classroom before Bartoo tried to make contact with Davidson by knocking on the door. He said Davidson slammed the door and yelled for him to go away while making "nonsensical noises."

Bartoo said he called the school resource officer, who was at a middle school campus, and explained that Davidson wasn't allowing students into his classroom and "wasn't making any sense." He asked the school resource officer to return to campus.

Bartoo said he tried to unlock the door and Davidson then again slammed it, saying, "Don't come in here, I have a gun."
Now, before we consider making government school teachers into some kind of impromptu SWAT team, let's consider the larger issue of the very nature of the government school / indoctrination / child-prison system, and as a case study, let's look at one of those proposed armed guards who gets permanent tenure as a union-protected made-man:

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Cops: Teacher who fired shot in classroom once tried confess to murder

A North Georgia social studies teacher, known as the longtime “radio voice” of Dalton High School football and basketball, is facing charges after he fired at least one shot inside a classroom Wednesday, and he once tried to confess to having someone killed, police said.

The alleged confession was one of two previous incidents involving Randal Davidson and local police.

Dalton police could not verify any of the information Davidson said on March 21, 2016, about having two friends kill someone on his behalf. Police ultimately took him to Hamilton Medical Center because he was having suicidal thoughts, according to a police report. The school was made aware of the incident, police said.

Then, in January 2017, Davidson disappeared from the high school campus after saying he didn’t feel well and leaving early. He was found hours later sitting on a curb about a mile away, unable or unwilling to respond to police, according to the report. He was again taken to the hospital and no further action was taken by officers.

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Police reports: Dalton High teacher had previous medical episodes

Another police report, filed on March 21, 2016, says Davidson went to police because he "wanted to confess to having someone killed."

The report says Davidson told police he was on "several different medications for depression" and had just gotten out of the hospital that day.

Police say they "were not able to verify any information that he provided to be accurate." The report says Davidson appeared to "be delusional or have something else that had occurred that is causing him to have these thoughts."

Davidson was taken to Hamilton Medical Center after talking with police "based on him thinking about hurting himself."

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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by K@th » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:15 am

I did hear about this. It fits the "mentally ill shouldn't have guns," narrative perfectly, from my POV.
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Dand » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:56 am

It fits the "people on SSRI's go nuts and attempt to kill themselves or others" narrative too.

The media has their work cut out for them by trying to use mental illness as a way to restrict guns while also not offending pharmaceutical companies by reporting on the connection between these shooters and the drugs they're on.

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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:02 am

It's too easy for Big Pharma to argue that you have causality backwards; that all these mass shooters are on SSRIs because they are mentally ill and that they kill because of the mental illness for which the SSRIs were prescribed to treat rather than the SSRIs causing the harm.

Furthermore, good luck finding the funding to conduct proper research on the matter. All the funding is tied up with either Big Pharma or government grants, and Big Pharma would lobby the fuck out of the government to deny any grants to somebody who could seriously untangle the data and figure this out.

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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:14 am

Speaker to Animals wrote: All the funding is tied up with either Big Pharma or government grants, and Big Pharma would lobby the fuck out of the government to deny any grants to somebody who could seriously untangle the data and figure this out.
This.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:29 pm

Fun fact, Dalton is known for its carpet industry.

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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by DBTrek » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:53 pm

Guess we can scratch arming mentally ill and delusional teachers from the list of viable alternatives to the regular non-solutions proposed in the wake of every shooting.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:55 pm

Ending public schools seems to be the way.
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by de officiis » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:01 am

Okeefenokee wrote:Ending public schools seems to be the way.
How would that help? Or are you saying things like this could never occur at a private school?
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Fife » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:15 am

LOL, de O. Under what conditions could things like this *never* occur? You're talking like one of the speechwriters over there in the swamp.

That's not much of a critique of Okee's idea, and below your standard.

pssst... don't look now, but the beneficiaries of an involuntary and coercive financial arrangement don't have much incentive to provide quality service to the coerced, involuntary party, and certainly not in comparison to their incentive to insure there will no reform to their gravy train.

Shut em down.