Why Can’t America Have Beerhalls?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Just watched Bourdain’s episode in Cologne, and it always irritates the hell out of me that we can’t have things like that here. Big parties of happy strangers, friendly, goofy traditions, total freedom to express yourself and be stupid.

We have a Haifbrauhaus restaurant in Cleveland. It’s modeled perfectly on a Munich beerhall, has gigantic kegs, a party for keg tapping, traditional food, and live music. Best restaurant I’ve ever been to.

Then they fucked it up. They stopped playing polkas and waltzes, and started doing pop songs. It changed within a year or three to just another excuse to get wasted and huddle up with your table, not talking to anyone else. Their attendance is through the floor, and they’re getting desperate.

What is it about America that we can’t just relax and have fun? I go to the annual Oktoberfest, and it’s sparser ever year. Only the older generation really seems laid back and having fun.

[Speaker to Animals]

Because diversity is our strength.

[Smitty-48]

Bah, beer halls. Even when I lived in Germany I didn't bother with beer halls.

Jump on a plane to Spain, hit the beach.

That's what the Germans do.

[Okeefenokee]

Bier Garten Riverwalk, last weekend.

Accordion and horn players are doing one song after another, and almost no one there could care less.

One table of Germans, and my table were the only ones interested, because we'd been to the real thing. No one else cared.

It was sad.

Later on at Durty Nelly's, piano player is doing his thing like always. No one is paying attention. Me and my wife were the only ones singing along.

Those aren't really American traditions. Some people brought them over from Europe and they stuck around for a while.

The American tradition was to get jacked up on coffee and plot to revolt against the king.

[Smitty-48]

From when the Germans came over in droves in 19th century, the Real Americans treated them as Foreign Devils, Irish, Italians and Germans, were the lowest of the low, America literally prohibited the consumption of beer, when the Germans complained, the Real Americans called them degenerate drunkards.

The whole point of Prohibition was the Real Americans repressing the filthy Irish, Italians, and Germans, who knew?

Temperance crusades is the great American tradition, beer halls were cesspools of alien sedition.

[Okeefenokee]

Down with the king.

[Smitty-48]

And after the king, down with strong drink and loud revelries, said the Real Americans, in the name of God himself.

Intoxicated Irish, Italians, Germans, and Negroes; the Devils' work in fact.

[Penner]

Just watched Bourdain’s episode in Cologne, and it always irritates the hell out of me that we can’t have things like that here. Big parties of happy strangers, friendly, goofy traditions, total freedom to express yourself and be stupid.

We have a Haifbrauhaus restaurant in Cleveland. It’s modeled perfectly on a Munich beerhall, has gigantic kegs, a party for keg tapping, traditional food, and live music. Best restaurant I’ve ever been to.

Then they fucked it up. They stopped playing polkas and waltzes, and started doing pop songs. It changed within a year or three to just another excuse to get wasted and huddle up with your table, not talking to anyone else. Their attendance is through the floor, and they’re getting desperate.

What is it about America that we can’t just relax and have fun? I go to the annual Oktoberfest, and it’s sparser ever year. Only the older generation really seems laid back and having fun.

Every so often there are Oktoberfests where I am from but beer halls are starting to become popular here in America. I think that a lot of it has to do with being the rise of micro-breweries in America but you still get places with those stupid blue laws as well. Here is a listing of some beer halls in Pittsburgh:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Beer+Ha ... e&ie=UTF-8

[Smitty-48]

Beer is fine as a chaser, but sitting around drinking tankards of beer? Blech, like drinking soda-pop.

[TheReal_ND]

From when the Germans came over in droves in 19th century, the Real Americans treated them as Foreign Devils, Irish, Italians and Germans, were the lowest of the low

Because they were. They were literally considered not White enough and we had the laws on the books which stated we would only accept Anglo and Nordic immigrants of good character.

And it turns out they were more or less correct because as soon as immigration was opened to Germans a ton of jews came in. They began to find their way to Congress where they complained about "Nordic Supremacy." "White Supremacy didn't exist at that time because it was just a shared experience. So they opened their immigration further after a "brief" period restriction in 1965 in the Hart-Cellar act. Named after two American jews.

Edit: I may have the time frame when Nordic Supremacy came up out of place hmm